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| Nov 26, 2006 @ 11:27 AM |
The value of sex |
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LOKI1960
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It's pretty common knowledge that women don't want to be thought of as sex objects.They want to be known for intelligence,wit,xense of humor,personality and all of the other attributes that makes up the whole person.Fair enough.
Yet why is it sex is seen as such an important thing to offer that many feel the man has to be made to work for it,never "give yourself away" as if the soul rests somewhere in the vagina.
If a woman is,say a dental hygienist and her date asks her a bunch of questions about dental hygiene and tooth decay,does she suddenly feel used for her intelligence?I somehow think not.
If sex is not the most important thing a woman has to offer,why is it treated like such a precious commodity?
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| Feb 13 @ 1:10 AM |
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lolthisistoofunny
Posts: 516
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A man has to "work" for it? Ha! Since when???? That is about the most laughable statement I've heard since...since ...okay, since yesterday!
Pray tell, I'd love to hear of the laborious self-sacrificing tasks you've had to endure, activities which strain your brain or emit sweat upon your brow and render your muscles rigid (among other things) in order for you to procure your "trivial" sexual favors from women.
Let me ask you this: If sex/a woman/her vagina is so much the unimportant thing that you seem to think it is, then why do you "work" so hard to get it?
If a woman is gracious enough to offer sex to you, she IS offering the whole person and that IS a precious commodity and is damn well worth working your ass off for. That is, if you're a human being worth any merit whatsoever and one who understands and appreciates the value of another human being and who understands how LUCKY he is that someone thinks so highly of him that she'd invite him to spend some time, literally, inside her body.
Why do people treat each other's bodies/minds/spirits/souls ...each other...as though they are not the whole of all those wonderful attributes you mentioned? Why, when it comes to sex, do people have absolute and utter disdain, disregard and disrespect for other people (particularly for women?)
Why? Because they are self-serving, rather than self-sacrificing. Do you, for some reason unbeknownst to me, feel as though because you have a "need," (e.g., a selfish desire for sexual gratification) that somehow (because you're a "man?"  ) it is OWED to you and that you shouldn't have to "work" for it?
A woman's vagina is not a separate entity from the whole woman and in case you didn't realize this...females, simply by virtue of the fact that have vaginas, don't OWE you a damned thing...not in gratitude for your having "worked" for it, nor do they OWE you the gift of giving it to you outright. It/she IS a precious commodity (just as you giving of yourself is a "precious commodity") and if more people understood that, we'd all be a hell of a lot better off.
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| Feb 13 @ 9:27 PM |
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lunanegra
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If sex is not the most important thing a woman has to offer,why is it treated like such a precious commodity? Is this used to justify that something along the lines of a "free society" will never exist? Besides,it's an emotional thing anyway.
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| Feb 19 @ 6:39 PM |
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xijnjo38
Posts: 34
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She knows that sex is very special. That's it. It is like achieving an ideal or "perfect" chemistry. It is the central factor in a harmonious relationship with god. I am really thankful for this phenomenon, which makes women the leaders of sexual activity. 
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| Feb 22 @ 8:22 AM |
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shellsmack
Posts: 7,655
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...sometimes it's a religious thing, your beliefs on the sanctity of "connecting as one".
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| Feb 28 @ 10:07 AM |
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brenda_s
Posts: 311
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I've never made a man "work for sex" with me. Sex is an important part of a relationship. If I have strong feeling for a man there's sex if the feeling isn't there then there isn't any sex. Sex, making love is a better way to put it, is a way to show ones love for another and is natural.
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| Feb 28 @ 1:50 PM |
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shellsmack
Posts: 7,655
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i'm with BRENDA...there's got to be some caring going on in there. 
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| Mar 1 @ 11:05 PM |
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sumdaysoon
Posts: 11,781
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all i got right now is...........$23.48.......bet that won't get me nothing....... 
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| Mar 2 @ 12:02 AM |
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lunanegra
Posts: 989
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lol,got a credit card?
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| Apr 20 @ 11:16 AM |
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aqua_mom
Posts: 25
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If I was a hooker $23.48 wouldn't even get you a flash
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| May 21 @ 3:03 PM |
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LOKI1960
Posts: 134
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A woman's vagina is not a separate entity from the whole woman and in case you didn't realize this...females, simply by virtue of the fact that have vaginas, don't OWE you a damned thing...not in gratitude for your having "worked" for it, nor do they OWE you the gift of giving it to you outright.
I am so glad you posted this.This is the crux of what I'm talking about,the two methods of belief between the genders.Men,in general (yes I'm generalizing,anyone who has a problem with generalizing,may as well skip this thread)have the ability to separate the sex urge from rest of their being.Is this wrong?I maintain that it is neither "wrong" not "right" but just a different point of view.And,no,I never said or implied that I'm "owed"anything.In fact I have utter disdain for the belief that sex is a commodity to be "paid" for an any way,yet,the main fact that the genders experience sex differently ( this is based on biological and social evolution) and often pursue it with a different agenda,gave rise to the condition of men "earning" sex or "paying for it" and has created this current state of supply/demand.
In a perfect world,we should all want the same thing.Sex should be mutual.No one should have to sacrifice or work for something that's as basic a part of biology as eating,breathing and defecating.Yet because we are social creatures,and these differences exist,this whole game must be played out.
It/she IS a precious commodity (just as you giving of yourself is a "precious commodity") and if more people understood that, we'd all be a hell of a lot better off.
So, you believe your holistic outlook should be shared by everyone?Because not everyone agrees with it.I've known some women who were every as "compartmentalized" as men.Some people can separate their emotions ( a mental or of you prefer "spiritual" aspect) from their biological urges and be completely fine with it.Do you believe this is wrong?Why?Do you believe sexuality is one of those things where one lifestyle should be practiced by all?Personally I think the world would be a boring place if we all felt the same way.Whenever someone says "sex should be 'X',and people would be happier if they treated it this way",that's exactly what they're saying.
A man has to "work" for it? Ha! Since when???? That is about the most laughable statement I've heard since...since ...okay, since yesterday!
Ever been to a night club that caters to singles?Ever looked at the email traffic on a dating site?All an attractive woman has to do to attract males is be available.How many HETERO male prostitutes have you ever seen walking the streets?Ask any guy how many attractive women he has been hit on and compare it to the number of guys you get hit on in a single day.What do you really have to do to compete with another woman for the affections of a guy?
In case you had not figured it out yet,I DON'T define my "whole" self by my sexuality.It's just a small part of what I am,merely a function of hormones and psychology.If there is an aspect that more clearly defines me,it's my work and the abilities associated with it.That's my intrinsic value to society and I value that every bit as much as you seem to value the holistic nature of your sexuality.It's why I insist on getting paid for what I do.
If sex/a woman/her vagina is so much the unimportant thing that you seem to think it is, then why do you "work" so hard to get it? Actually,I really don't have to.I can hire an escort for a reasonable price and be done with it.We guys "work" so hard to get it because biology gives us the impetus and the current social condition deems we must "work" at it.The old adage,"A man never gets it for free" comes to mind.
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| May 25 @ 9:04 PM |
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shellsmack
Posts: 7,655
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This is deep. I just wanna have my breath taken away.
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| May 25 @ 11:14 PM |
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SpunkyRed
Posts: 3,539
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yeah me too...why all the red tape?
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| May 28 @ 9:52 AM |
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LOKI1960
Posts: 134
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why all the red tape?
You tell me.Unless maybe you like to be tied up with red tape?
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| May 29 @ 11:47 PM |
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shellsmack
Posts: 7,655
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off-white 'ill work
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| May 29 @ 11:50 PM |
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procarb
Posts: 5
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if you veiw a woman as a sex toy you will likly get what you desurve if you treat a woman with kindness and respect you will likely get what you want and so will she
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