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Nov 24, 2007 @ 9:08 PM Sex on the 1st Date    
RevDocLove


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Again.. Who the fuck is Dr. Laura???
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Nov 24, 2007 @ 9:29 PM Sex on the 1st Date    
GSpotGina


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Oops, sorry. Dr. Laura Schlessinger. She's the "sexpert." Writes books like "The Proper Care and Feeding of Husbands."

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Nov 24, 2007 @ 9:46 PM Sex on the 1st Date    
RevDocLove


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Sounds like one of my cast off shackups..
I can't remember all of their names..
Sounds like she was one of the really pissed off ones
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Nov 25, 2007 @ 9:34 PM Sex on the 1st Date    
In_a_Frenzy


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Frenzy, being NW Fla...it's basically Southern Alabama...where girls are taught from birth to be rather submissive...I'd LOVE to see women up here that had attitudes...it's why I usually date Marines if I can help it.

Why are women these days considered to be sluts & ho's...let's see...college town...easy young women on the beach...Girls Gone Wild...heck...we joke that there's no reason to go to a topless bar because you can pick up tourist chix for the price of a drink...heck, half the time they're buying YOU the drinks...just so they can write down "Who they Did over Summer Vacation"....so yeah, it does rather get to be depressing because women SHOULD be more chaste...but they sure as heck aren't.
I lived in FWB - and moved away from there - for soooo many reasons. So are you now narrowing your comments to women of the Panhandle? Bottom line - there's neither self-respect nor integrity from both men (who encourage and thrive on this behavior) and women (who are desperate to please a man and get his attention)

Here's the thing...since the "Sexual Revolution of the 60's" morals have been dropping faster than bikini bottoms. A recent poll shows that 82% of women age 18 have had sex...out of wedlock. If women themselves would stick to their guns, there would be far less unwed mothers, STD's, etc...but as we all can see from the copious amounts of internet porn out there NOT TO MENTION all the adult MATCH sites out there where their opening pics are them opening themselves...like the one we are ON...that Earth Girls are Easy. (good movie, btw Jeff Goldblum-Geena Davis-Damon Wayans-Jim Carrey-rated PG) Y'all want to be treated better? Consider how women as a whole are acting...if so MANY weren't easy...it would be a diffrent world. Don't blame the player...blame the game. We couldn't be bad boys if there weren't so many bad girls.
Why are you pointing out just women having sex out of wedlock? Did an unwed mother get pregnant on her own? Did she contract an STD on her own? Ummmm....who runs most of the porn out there? As for me being on this site....if you took the time to read my profile.......you'd see I was on NR and came here to continue chatting with people I became friendly with.........and if you read my profile you would see that CLEARLY it's not serious to attract anyone. And I was never blaming one gender over another...........for all of the above IT TAKES TWO TO TANGO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! My question is this though - if you (men) see a woman who doesn't seem to respect herself and behaves all slutty - why can't you (men) just walk away from the situation? Why kick her when she's down....treat her badly, falsely lead her to think you may even be interested in her? Why can't you (men) show integrity? Why is all the woman's fault? Do we women wield that much power over you (men)?

It's 2007 - are women still not to admit that they have a healthy sex drive? Does that make all women who do, sluts? Will the double standard ever go away?




[Edited on 11/25/2007 10:16 PM]
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Nov 25, 2007 @ 9:38 PM Sex on the 1st Date    
ynot7769


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*POOF* *takes away double standard with the sweep of his magic wand*
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Nov 25, 2007 @ 10:05 PM Sex on the 1st Date    
sweetsuz


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Frenzy, by the time i cooled down from some of the comments......you had put together a nice counter point. that is basically my point exactly. women have just as much as a healthy sex drive as men, yet we get condemmed for it.

to have some men tell it, you would think they would rather have a woman that just lays there enduring the "wifely" duty instead of someone that participates.

and yes, a lot of young ppl parade themselves around but that doesnt mean that all woman (or men) are sluts
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Nov 25, 2007 @ 10:07 PM Sex on the 1st Date    
In_a_Frenzy


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Thanks Ynot........if only it were that simple
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Suz.......great minds think alike
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Nov 25, 2007 @ 10:11 PM Sex on the 1st Date    
winterrenegade


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and yes, a lot of young ppl parade themselves around but that doesnt mean that all woman (or men) are sluts

Damn there just went my secret
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Nov 25, 2007 @ 10:25 PM Sex on the 1st Date    
sumdaysoon


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Sex on the 1st Date

yes......please......
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Nov 25, 2007 @ 10:32 PM Sex on the 1st Date    
sweetsuz


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sorry, winter, i didnt realize you were that young
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Nov 26, 2007 @ 8:01 AM Sex on the 1st Date    
RevDocLove


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What's a date???
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Nov 26, 2007 @ 8:45 AM Sex on the 1st Date    
Sylvan69


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Here is a copy of the first post to a new thread on another message board I go to. Thought some of you would find it interesting.

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Whom not to marry:

Be Selfish Now .....
It's amazing how many people think that a guy looking for a good woman should do what's "fair" or what's socially responsible ... Screw that! It's each guy's responsibility to find a woman that's the best possible choice for HIM. Who will make HIM happy. This one time, when he's choosing his future wife, he needs to focus exclusively on his own needs and making sure they are satisfied.

Trust me ... nobody else in the world, least of all your wife, is worrying about your needs or wants. So you should worry about your own.

And this is the last chance you'll get. Once you're actually married, you'll find that everything about marriage, legal, financial, and emotional, will be about HER and the kids. Your needs will be dead last, or even more likely, not even recognized. You will be just a provider, a mechanic, or whatever type of worker-bee the woman and children happen to require at the moment.

So, take this one chance, young man, to make sure that the woman you are looking for satisfies YOUR needs and wants.

So forget about what's politically correct or socially responsible. Be selfish. That's the best thing you can do for yourself, and for your future wife.

Look for Wifely Qualities, Not Just Girlfriend Qualities. Women have been encouraged to chase relentlessly after personal fulfillment...being well-educated, physically fit, interesting, and financially secure. All these things are really great, and make for a wife who is nice to be around. BUT there are a whole other set of qualities that modern women have ignored...and even, avoided. These are the skills and habits that make them a good wife.
Of course, many people pooh-pooh this idea...many people think that marriage just "happens" when two people love each other. Au contrair. A happy marriage takes skill. There are a whole set of attitudes and habits that each partner needs to bring.

The "wifely" skills are those that the woman needs to have, or learn darned quick, if she's going to make you happy. In fact, the woman's "wifely" skills are probably the most important single factor in the success of the marriage. The woman, with her better emotional strength, and her vastly superior ability to track and manage the health of the relationship, is the key to long term success.

Of course, in the past 50 years, women have disavowed those wifely skills, as well as their natural responsibility for the relationship. No wonder that so many marriages are miserable, and the rate of divorce is sky-high!

So here's a practical tip for all you intrepid wife-hunters. Remember that the qualities that make a woman a good wife may be quite different from those that make her a good girlfriend. As the saying goes "American women are great for easy casual sex, but make terrible wives".

Don't assume that a woman, just because she's a hot girlfriend, will make a good wife for you. When you're really (really!) serious about finding a wife and mate, prove your seriousness by changing your aim. Look for a woman who may *not* make a great girlfriend, but *will* make a fantastic wife!

What are good wifey skills?
Cooking, cleaning, mothering, nurturing, wants kids, loves kids, loyal and trustworthy.
What is important is that the wife does not have a real negative attitude towards doing those things. Any trace of snobbery at doing traditional female tasks is a bad sign of a "princess".

Marrige is a case where both partners need to give up something to get somthing different and greater in return. If anyone is selfish about the realtionship then it won't work.

And a marrige except for a few cases needs someone to be a provider, and someone to be a domestic.

No woman with strong feminist leanings will EVER be happy with the breakdown of tasks in the household. They will ALWAYS be preoccupied with fairness and feel they are being taken advantage of. They never realize that a marriage is letting your guard down and mutually trusting the other person!

Also, not with one who has a drunk daddy. Always check out the mom today to see your honey tomorrow ... Is mom fat?

Never Marry a Woman Who has the Same Career Ambitions in a Similar Industry as You Do.
If you're not that agressive about your career, it's ok to marry a woman who is.

If you are agressive about your career, then it's not OK to marry a woman who is also agressive about her career ... unless it's a career in an industry that is very different from yours.

Basically, marriage doesn't work all that well when you have two driven, ambitious people. Clashing egos for 40 years ... uh-uh. Ain't gonna work.

I would rephrase "success in career" as just some sort of success in an organization, with the definition of success left broad. so as opposed to just being a party girl who's irresponsible and can't hold a job for more than six months (and usually just sees work as a means to party), you'd want a chick who has managed to be successful in a job or as a volunteer in an organization or as an artist or whatever. Just SOMETHING that requires some level of fiscal responsibility, organizational skills, professional interpersonal skills along with taking the "good and the bad" for some higher goa
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Nov 26, 2007 @ 8:47 AM Sex on the 1st Date    
Sylvan69


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oops....

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...the "good and the bad" for some higher goal. Not someone who walks away as soon as some level of disomfort approaches, or is afrait to persue ANY goal.

Never marry a woman whose father took off or was abusive to her mother UNLESS she got the right lesson from it ... the right lesson being that responsible men are to be adored and valued and their eccentricities and (mild, occasional) irresponsibilities tolerated. You need to have clear evidence that she took the right lesson -- if not, you're going to have a nightmare marriage dominated by her suspicion, paranoia, and total inability to please.

Never marry a woman who, while you are dating, is even SLIGHTLY open to other men's flirtation, who even occasionally tells you she's going out clubbing with the girls, who has any significant relationship with an ex (unless you know the ex, are included whenever your girl sees the ex socially, and can personally validate that it is purely "just friends" and trust that with your gut.) Marriagable women are totally loyal and have NO interest whatsoever in any other man or any interest whatsoever in having any other man pay them attention.

Never marry a woman who complains about your appearance, or even cares to much about it, beyond a "you aren't going to go to my mother's house in that wrinkly shirt." Let's face it: you're going to working hard to support her and the kids, and if you pack on some lbs or go gray, you don't want to worry about her deciding that it merits her having an affair.

Never marry a woman who is sexually demanding in terms of your performance, who withholds sex on a regular basis on the grounds of headache or disinclination, or thinks she has a "right" to anything in particular sexually -- who, for example, will refuse you sex or make you keep doing things in bed on the grounds that you didn't get her off the last time. You are going to get older and fatter and her libido is going to go off a cliff as she gets older and has kids. If she is even slightly hard to deal with sexually now (in terms of giving it up, or in terms of demanding things from you now) she is going to be IMPOSSIBLE to deal with five years after marriage. You WILL have a marriage which is nearly sexless.

Never marry a woman who's habitually late. If she can't get there on time when she's single, she'll never be there on time to pick up your kids from daycare or baseball practice. It will never get better.
Can be generalized to "all bad habits will persist and worsen."

Here is one of the most important tips: ignore what women say, and watch what they do. Your post reminded me of a female co-worker of mine who used to say she'd never date anyone from work. I liked her, so I waited till I quit to ask her out...whereupon, of course, I discovered she'd been screwing the guy in the cube next to her for months.

Never marry anyone in therapy. She is getting 50 minutes a week of 'how to hate men' brainwashing ... And it's expensive as hell, and you'll be expected to pay for it.
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Nov 26, 2007 @ 1:42 PM Sex on the 1st Date    
RevDocLove


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It's all a conspiracy I tell you
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Nov 26, 2007 @ 3:08 PM Sex on the 1st Date    
sweetsuz


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Joel, everything you posted can be applied to men as well. and if you believe all that, do i have a bridge to sell you!





oh hell, i give up!!!!
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Nov 26, 2007 @ 5:36 PM Sex on the 1st Date    
Sylvan69


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not all of it...
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Nov 26, 2007 @ 8:43 PM Sex on the 1st Date    
In_a_Frenzy


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Wow.......I'm too tired to read all that and comment accordingly..............but I will at a later date..........believe me I will comment
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Nov 26, 2007 @ 9:19 PM Sex on the 1st Date    
LilGriz


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Hey Frenzy, there is nothing wrong with a woman who has a high sex drive. I think alot of men are scared of a woman who loves sex as much as them and are vocal about it. The f'n double standard will stay as long as men perpetuate it, and women who are scared to admid they love sex are vocal about how wron it is.

We may have had a so called sexual revolution, but the Europeans are laughing when it comes to talking about it as they just do it.
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Nov 26, 2007 @ 9:47 PM Sex on the 1st Date    
Sylvan69


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Europeans? Yeah, look at what kind of society they have to live with over there as well as put up with the incompetent corrupt authoritarians running it all. Fuck those pinko socialist and commie europeans!



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Nov 28, 2007 @ 6:46 AM Sex on the 1st Date    
peachskin


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^^^^ .. and your problem is? I might think you get problems with having sex on a 1st date with that attitude over here
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