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  J1958

Don't you just love it when the owner of the universe sends down an edict like this:


This is not about denying anyone their religious belief, that is also protected. This is not about "forcing" anyone to all of a sudden embrace a gay lifestyle, it is about simple basic rights of two consenting adults in love who want to marry.

I sure get sick of being told by "the authorities" what things are about and what they are NOT about.

In the quoted paragraph the rights of consenting adults may be what the laws on gay marriage are "about" to the writer. But that does not mean it has been mandated by the law, the government or God Almighty that the rights of gay people are the only element of the issue the rest of us are permitted to consider.

Some of us find the future of the human species of interest. And laws impacting procreation are certainly germane to that issue.

I want to repeat...gay people have precisely the same rights to marry as straight people, so knock it off about this denial of your rights BS. You are not allowed to marry your daddy, no matter how much you love him or how broken-hearted this makes you, or how loudly you protest that you are being denied your rights. It's not good for the future of the species. Neither is gay marriage, and the future of the species trumps your right to marry whomever you wish. Why is this so difficult to understand?

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TwistAndShout

Jun 30 @ 7:32AM  
I sure get sick of being told by "the authorities" what things are about and what they are NOT about.

And for two days you have continued to proclaim that this is about avoiding a totally illogical outcome (that culture and law might succeed in turning off the biological urge to engage in heterosexual sex in so much of the population that procreation will cease).

And in all seriousness, I can see how a person who has to forcefully suppress an urge to forgo gay sex in favor of procreation might believe that.

But I will assume for the sake of this discussion that you're a heterosexual by nature, since statistically that's more likely, and suggest a different explanation as to why you take this position.

It strikes me that this is nothing more than a rationalization to support an anti-libertarian position simply because it is promoted by the right wing, which you otherwise tend to agree with and therefore want to agree with on this position.

J1958

Jun 30 @ 12:51PM  
And for two days you have continued to proclaim that this is about avoiding a totally illogical outcome (that culture and law might succeed in turning off the biological urge to engage in heterosexual sex in so much of the population that procreation will cease).

You miss the point of my original essay on gay marriage by a mile. I’m not concerned that procreation will cease as a result of legalizing gay marriage. In fact, I find that highly unlikely as any reasonable person would.

But at some point between here and the end of time laws will be made to govern our activity. There must be a barometer by which the enactment of those laws is measured. What better barometer can we use to define the difference between good laws and bad than their impact on the human future? And what must we consider in an examination of that future before survival?

That which facilitates survival is good. That which does not is bad.
TwistAndShout

Jun 30 @ 4:29PM  
You miss the point of my original essay on gay marriage by a mile. I’m not concerned that procreation will cease as a result of legalizing gay marriage. In fact, I find that highly unlikely as any reasonable person would.

Come off it! You said over and over that the issue is survival of the species. That we can't assume that enough people would remain heterosexual to assure the continuation of the human race.

But at some point between here and the end of time laws will be made to govern our activity. There must be a barometer by which the enactment of those laws is measured. What better barometer can we use to define the difference between good laws and bad than their impact on the human future?

Except you just said that you are not concerned that procreation would cease. So what are you saying now? Because it is theoretically possible, even though "any reasonable person" knows that it won't happen, you think it's good enough reason to ban behavior that you find unsavory?

In other words, you rationalized being against gay marriage because to say it's immoral is against your atheist posture. What bullshit!

I had you pegged as a libertarian. It turns out you're not. You're just a garden variety right wing parrot, against whatever the right wing blogs happen to be railing against.
J1958

Jun 30 @ 10:57PM  

In other words, you rationalized being against gay marriage because to say it's immoral is against your atheist posture. What bullshit!

Call this "Adventures in Circumlocution." You are blabbing to hear your own voice. If you want to debate the issue, address it. If you want to communicate with me about my personality, send me e-mail and hope it's interesting enough to merit an answer.

There should be an age limit forbidding children from posting to this "adult" blog. And I think it would be a good idea for the members of this site to get together and find something useful for you to do that does not require thinking.

countonit666

Jul 1 @ 12:18AM  
You cannot argue with a one dimensional mind, a mind that cannot function beyond what he sees in a literal sense. Why argue with a mediocre mind? His intent is merely to gain admittance to a level of thought which is beyond his capacity. He is redundant to the point of being arbitrary, and superfluous. I see no point in trying to enlighten an inferior mind.
TwistAndShout

Jul 1 @ 5:16AM  
Call this "Adventures in Circumlocution."

I'll say. You spent two days making your ridiculous "gay marriage is a threat to the species because it could end procreation" argument over and over, swearing that it's not a moral judgment, but rather a biological one.

You finally admit that it's not a threat, that no reasonable person would feel that could happen, but your point was that survival of the species would be a good theoretical construct for adopting laws in general.

So you've never really explained why you're against gay marriage.

And now you (and your evil dwarf, Cocktail) resort to the standard refuge of "you're just not smart enough to get it."

Nope. I just call bullshit when I see it.
J1958

Jul 1 @ 5:30AM  
And now you (and your evil dwarf, Cocktail) resort to the standard refuge of "you're just not smart enough to get it."

Oddly, I think you finally GOT IT!

From the beginning, my quarrel has been with LAW; its function, its point and its obligation. LAW is the formula we use to conduct civilization. We must insure that its character and content shape a future that is healthy for humanity before we engage in the servicing of individual liberties or the satisfaction of individual groups.

Who is gay and what makes them that way is inconsequential to this argument.
onehornytoad69

Jul 1 @ 11:06PM  
I agree to a Point...
My Bro was Gay.....so was my Bro -Inlaw....Both chose that life style because they were Gilted by Women....
Some say that they were born "GAY"...If they think so......so-be-it!!

I read within this past Year... that a "CHILD" of 8 or 9 years of age, Stated that he was GAY!!!
His DAD was Proud!!!
WTF..... Did ...not, ALL "Straight" boys have their ..Women haters Clubs at this age??
This made the News...
We have Changed our lifestyles...We have became Lazy....and a Lonely World...so "I" see it!!!

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