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Great, we have a few idiots that wants to change the Washington Redskins' to the Washington Redtails. Enough of this politically correct crap already!

The drive to change the Washington Redskins' name will take a significant step forward when D.C. Council member David Grosso introduces a resolution calling for the team to eliminate what he calls it "a derogatory, racist" moniker.

The "Redskins" name, which the franchise used while it was still based in Boston in the 1930s, has generated quite a bit of controversy recently. Behind star quarterback Robert Griffin III, the team's popularity has skyrocketed, and there has even been discussion of moving the squad from Landover, Md., to a stadium inside the District. But Mayor Vincent Gray would like the team to consider changing its name before any relocation discussion.

Grosso, an independent, says he has the support of at least two other council members for his non-binding resolution.

"It's been a long time that we’ve had this name associated with Washington," Grosso told the Washington Post, "and I think its time we take a stand and change it."

In his resolution, Grosso writes that the city's name has been dishonored by its association with the Redskins moniker:

"Because it is well known in America and in nations afar that American Indians have experienced utmost suffering and disrespect over the years," the resolution reads.

In place of Redskins, Grosso suggests the team be called the Redtails, which was the nickname for the Tuskeegee Airmen, the aviators who broke the color barrier for U.S. military pilots in World War II.

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sugarnspice005

May 1 @ 3:46PM  
Enough of this politically correct crap already!

I can agree with that statement.

And in reading the article, seems to me the only person having an issue with the name of the team is this David Grosso. I have not heard anything on the news about anyone being offended by the name of this team.

Seems to me this council member could find more important issues to work on, like public safety in his district if needed, things like that.
StraddleMyNose

May 1 @ 3:51PM  
But Mayor Vincent Gray would like the team to consider changing its name before any relocation discussion.

Grosso, an independent, says he has the support of at least two other council members for his non-binding resolution.

Don't forget these other three idiots, Dawn.

RJ53

May 1 @ 3:55PM  
Problem is the term redskins comes from an era when it was used as a degrading term for native american people just like calling a black person the N word, At this time there was a bounty on scalps of native american people like the French and they could tell it was a native scalp by 'red skin' The team should have never been named that in the first place, it is like naming a team a racial slur on any ethnic group, It is more than not politically correct it is really insulting to a whole race of people, However at this point I don't think changing the name of the team really fixes anything.
StraddleMyNose

May 1 @ 4:02PM  
It is more than not politically correct it is really insulting to a whole race of people, However at this point I don't think changing the name of the team really fixes anything

I don't agree with you, Rhonda. Btw, how long have you been a Redskins' fan?

sugarnspice005

May 1 @ 4:27PM  
I was thinking (I know..scary thing for me to do... ) if it's politically incorrect to use "Redskins" because it's an offensive slur, then how about changing from New Orleans "Saints" to something else because an atheist may be offended by the use of the word "Saints"? Or hey, change the Detroit Red Wings because "Red Wings" could be seen offensive by some. How? It's a long running joke I've had with Shawn on here when he saw a blog of mine titled with "Red Wings" in it and he thought it was about going down on a woman on her period.

My point is, we can't please everyone. This team has been the Redskins for as long as I can remember. And now someone is "offended"? I agree with Rhonda, they never should have used it to begin with. But they did, and it seems to me the time to bitch and have a fit over it was back when they originally named the team, not decades after the fact.

somnium

May 1 @ 4:39PM  
he thought it was about going down on a woman on her period.

Didja have to say that an hour before dinner??

sugarnspice005

May 1 @ 4:40PM  
Didja have to say that an hour before dinner??

Sorry....

StraddleMyNose

May 1 @ 4:43PM  
Or hey, change the Detroit Red Wings because "Red Wings" could be seen offensive by some. How? It's a long running joke I've had with Shawn on here when he saw a blog of mine titled with "Red Wings" in it and he thought it was about going down on a woman on her period.
Oh yeah, I remember very well.

Maybe I should post a repost of my "Redwings" blog soon.

My point to Rhonda was her having been a fan of the Redskins' for a long time, it seems like being offended really didn't play a big role for her since she calls the Redskins' her team.

I don't know very many fans of a football team, or any other sports team for that matter that would be offended by their team's nickname only to jump on the bandwagon as a fan.
StraddleMyNose

May 1 @ 4:45PM  
Didja have to say that an hour before dinner??
C'mon, Som, nothing like the great taste of a woman. Mmmm...
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May 1 @ 4:53PM  
As a New York Giant fan I would prefer they change the "Washington" part of their name. I recognize the Redskins as a rival and the city of Washington, which by virtue of being the gathering place of two ineffective branches of government, is offensive to Americans across the country.
RJ53

May 1 @ 7:41PM  
I grew up with my dad watching them because he had worked in DC for years and figured they did not know what it meant when they named the team, I don't like the name and wonder why people think it is bad to call one race names and not others, that always did puzzle me,
RJ53

May 1 @ 7:49PM  

But they did, and it seems to me the time to bitch and have a fit over it was back when they originally named the team, not decades after the fact.






Native Americans have been pitching a bitch fir over it since it was named that in 1945, but it was done in a time when no one listened to minorities and they were pretty much ignored, naming a team Redskins is the same as someone naming a team Sambos or the Drunk Irish or the Wops, It is not politically correct for a reason,[/Q
PinkToeNails

May 1 @ 9:31PM  
I used to work at a restaurant called Sambo's.....lol A name change did follow but this was back in like '83 or so.

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Wordsofwit

May 2 @ 8:17AM  
This issues comes and goes like a rising or receding tide and it isn't only based on race or ethnicity. Straddle's Reds reverted back to their old time name, the Red Legs, in the fifties during the McCarthy commie. Manwithoutahorse's Syracuse Orangemen changed their name to the Orange because it was sexist. The NBA's Washington Bullets became the Wizards due to glorifying violence.

Several years ago the state of California mandated that public high schools could not have an ethnic or religious reference in nickname. One that was Diablos changed their name. One school that used the Indians sued, it was on a reservation. I am not sure how that turned out.

Grosso, an independent, says he has the support of at least two other council members for his non-binding resolution.

I highlighted the key word here in why this is a BFD and most likely just political grandstanding.

It slices along the lines of what is public and what is private.

The Washington Redskins are a business. If they are forced to change their name or logo, what is next? Does the Super Mario game and character have to change as it degrades Italians?

Public officials need to put forth efforts on things that are important and this isn't,


somnium

May 2 @ 11:54AM  
C'mon, Som, nothing like the great taste of a woman. Mmmm...

I agree of course, but, I'll pass on the ketchup!!


somnium

May 2 @ 11:56AM  
Sorry....

Just kidding sugar!

sugarnspice005

May 2 @ 12:47PM  
Public officials need to put forth efforts on things that are important and this isn't,



I'll agree with Rhonda, it's offensive to Native American Indians. But so is hearing the "N" word, so is hearing whites called "crackers", and Irish (hello...I am part Irish) being called "coal-cracker", Mexican being called "wet backs" and the list goes on.

Wrong? Yes, it is wrong to use slurs against others. Do any of us know if by naming this team the Redskins that it was meant as a slur? I admit to not knowing if it was meant as such or not. I wasn't around in the 1930's when this team was named. (I did some looking around online about it.) And I also discovered that redskins wasn't about skin color, it had to do with trappers references to scalps, and I'll leave it at that. And no, I am in no way excusing using the phrase. I'm sharing what I discovered.



StraddleMyNose

May 2 @ 1:40PM  
I have always thought that the Redskins' name was honoring Native Americans by the team taking that name for itself. I think a lot of people see it that way.
Wordsofwit

May 3 @ 2:33AM  
If they changed their logo to peanuts maybe that would resolve it.
StraddleMyNose

May 3 @ 5:26PM  
New poll shows vast support for Redskins nickname

It’s been a rough offseason for the Washington Redskins, and not just because of the knee injury to star quarterback Robert Griffin III.

The team’s nickname, which some consider a derogatory term for Native Americans, has faced a barrage of criticism. Local leaders and pundits have called for a name change. Opponents have launched a legal challenge intended to deny the team federal trademark protection. A bill introduced in Congress in March would do the same, though it appears unlikely to pass.

But a new Associated Press-GfK poll shows that nationally, “Redskins” still enjoys widespread support. Seventy-nine percent of Americans polled don’t think the team should change its name, the survey found. Only 11 percent think it should be changed, while 8 percent weren’t sure and 2 percent didn’t answer.

The AP-GfK poll was conducted from April 11-15. It included interviews with 1,004 adults on both land lines and cellphones. It has a margin of sampling error of plus or minus 3.9 percentage points.

Several poll respondents told the AP that they did not consider the name offensive and cited tradition in arguing that it shouldn’t change.

A Redskins spokesman declined to comment on the poll’s findings or to make team executives available for interviews.

The Columbus Dispatch
Wordsofwit

May 3 @ 5:55PM  
Good follow up citation, Straddle It follows what I have seen in the past concerning polls on the issue.

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Council To Consider New Name For Redskins