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  StraddleMyNose

In regards to Luna's blog, my comment would have to wait for approval, therefore, I won't be commenting on her blog. Not because I don't think she will not approve my comment, it's because I'm still unable to send out emails on this site, and once I post, she will have no way of knowing that I had tried to comment on her blog since the notice wouldn't be in her inbox. But then this could be resolved if she would automatically allow comments like many of us do on this site.

What's she affraid of, differenting opinions than her's? She posts on other peoples blogs, and we all allow her to, but yet she chooses to screen her comments. Typical hypocrisy with her in this area as well. Where's this "tolerance" that her and others on the left talk about? They preach it, but yet they can't practice this. People have different opinions on subjects, I think we all understand this, but there are few who don't seem to.

As for her blog topic, I certainly don't agree with her. We can blog about anything we want on this site, as long as it's within the rules here, and most blogs are. For someone to whine in a blog they post that politics and religion should not be alowwed to be blogged here shows a great deal of intolerance and disrespect of opposing views, and censorship as well.

I certainly don't like drama in the blogs, but for someone like Luna to try to tell us what shouldn't be blogged here on this site, I think many will agree with me that this kind of mentality doesn't serve this site, or any other site well!

She asks why we can't be respectful to keep religion and politics out of the blogs. I would ask her the same with her negativity drama rants that she occassionaly posts on here.

I do feel like she's attacking people, including myself for both their religion, and their politics on here.

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StraddleMyNose

Mar 4 @ 11:18AM  
I'll get lambasted for pointing out that some of you are bleeding hypocrites.
Oh really? For someone to have preached tolerance before on this site, you sure don't seem to have any of it for others with opposing viewpoints!

Why are you attacking people on here with their faith, Luna?
40DWM

Mar 4 @ 11:45AM  
One one hand, we have some peeps that will say they are not Christian, then lambast
those that believe in Christ, yet say how 'He' would do, so~n~so. Was there not
a passage about the fig tree that did not produce? Sounds like a SSI, Welfare
recipient to me.
Talk of how it's so goodie-goodie to kill babies....yet 'He' loved children.
I don't want to be in 'the book' for that.
Yeah, call me Hippocratic....I've been called worse by those that know me better.

Anyone that thinks Amerigo Vespucci 'discovered' the new world, shows how
liberally educated they really are.

As for censorship, I am of the opinion, it's used by those that cannot tolerate
ideas that differ from their own.
somnium

Mar 4 @ 12:40PM  
Ya know... sometimes I think that this would be one helluva planet to live on, if it weren't for people! And of course, I'm a people!


sugarnspice005

Mar 4 @ 5:57PM  
Yes, we can blog about whatever the hell we want. We can also choose to skip over the ones we feel might anger us, or hurt feelings, or bore us to tears. No where in the rules does it state we must read all blogs. Now granted, it does say something about "keep it interesting".....and, well, what one person finds interesting, another person may find offensive.

Myself, as far as religion and politics go, I'll enjoy a rational discussion, I don't mind differing opinions as we're all adults here, and we all have a different point of view. I choose to respect that others will see things differently than I do. I like to see the different opinions. I mean, if we agreed all the time, I think we would get bored.
onehornytoad69

Mar 4 @ 9:24PM  
Love ya Bro!!!
Lets Move on...
And that's all I have to say about that!




StraddleMyNose

Mar 4 @ 10:36PM  
Love ya Bro!!!
Lets Move on...
And that's all I have to say about that!

I am moving on. I needed to let out how I felt about her attacking mine and others faith on here, and her extreme immature bad behavior. Perhaps someone who needs to move on is Luna if she doesn't like what she sees on this site.

I would also suggest that you shouldn't be encouraging that type of bad behavior, especially someone who throws a tantrum while attacking peoples faith and religion on here!

I'm done! I have nothing more to say about this!
Luvrgrl

Mar 5 @ 11:35AM  
I totally agree....you are right. Respect must go both ways. It is my sincere hope that something good can come from this heated little exchange. It does us all good to "duke" it out every now and again. Sometimes a really good argument can lead to really good make up sex ya know! Just sayin!
lunanegra

Mar 5 @ 6:47PM  
1. I'm not saying you cant blog about politics and religion, but it gives a mixed pov of yourself. A typical Conservative wouldnt doing or talking about half of the shit you're talking about. Yet, no one see the duality of it all.

2. I started screening comments because of the troll epidemic, now what?

3. Thanks for proving me right about getting something nasty back in return, although you paint yourself as this "nice guy/Christian". Not surprised.

4. You dont think your political beliefs or the politicians and news sources you watch and listen to arent the source of most of the negativity in the world? I am mostly mad about this birth control issue. You dont believe in abortion, you won't help to keep it in check by heelping with BC, but you also want to cut funding to social services including the foster care system which these unwanted children go into. I'm sorry, but you people and your beliefs are all whats wrong with this country.

5. I can be negative, I can be a lot of things most of you wont say to my face, but I'm also honest. I'm not two-faced, and if anything I am consistent at least.

Lastly, I dont care if you get mad at me. Seems like if I step out of line, or don't act like a good little girl someone's bound to reprimand me. Its been like that for years on this place.

By seeing all this kudos, that tells me everything. Probably some from people I called my friends, again no surprise that what I was getting at went over a few heads and instead of seeing the point, there's a typical visceral reaction from the AMD mob.

StraddleMyNose

Mar 5 @ 7:03PM  
Thanks for proving me right about getting something nasty back in return
What, my rebuttal blog? I don't think I was nasty at all, just very direct and civil about it. You stated that you didn't want a debate on my Bible blog, and yet you go on the attack the very next day with a blog.

Yes, I am a nice guy, but you want to see what you want to see. Typical behavior on your part. I'm tired of your little drama in the blogs over the past four years. I'm moving on, and I suggest you do the same.

I have nothing more to say to you, other than to grow up and take some responsibility on here, and in your life for a change!
hotwhisperer

Mar 8 @ 12:24AM  
Politics is the art of directing and influencing others. Can anyone open their mouth and not do that? Talking politics and religion is as harmless as saluting the flag. In fact, to not want to do that is a sign of immaturity,self centeredness,and controlling issues. I am sure there is much more but let's keep it light here. Political correctness is not productive or constructive. Satire and humor are just diversions from the most important element of life. Truth!!! One cannot avoid it forever and stay healthy. So why try?
xquseme

Mar 8 @ 7:23AM  
You dont believe in abortion, you won't help to keep it in check by heelping with BC, but you also want to cut funding to social services including the foster care system which these unwanted children go into.
Yeah, I'm kinda befuddled by this, too. I was raised a conservative Catholic, so to me
abortion is murder. Problem is, birth control is frowned upon by the Church, too.

I had a priest explain it to me this way. "God made" laws are called Dogma. "Man made"
laws are called Doctrine. You cannot dispute dogma (i.e. murder, or abortion). You
CAN question doctrine (i.e. birth control). The Catholic church doesn't approve of
EITHER. To me, it is only being responsible to practice sensible birth control. It is
simply the lesser of two evils.

In the real world, you can't just profess black or white. There is plenty of gray to deal
with. In this respect, the Catholic church is antiquated and backward.

Again, to me, the practice of abortion is barbaric and tantamount to murder.
But, that's just me.

Sorry to change the subject. Please continue...
Babybunnie

Mar 16 @ 6:32PM  
For xquseme, I rarely, if ever, post anything here but I had to respond to you. I have made a study of both religion by society and society by religion, and read many "Holy" books, philosophy, and Metaphysics. For me, as I cannot vouch for anyone else, though if we though about it, we might all wonder how it is possible to kill something that is not really "alive". In most "Holy" books it clearly states that a "child" is not a child of God until it receives the "Breath of Life". So a fetus wold be considered not a child of God until it breathed, which in turn means it has to be born. Until then it is only a parasite as it needs the mother to stay "alive" though it is not "alive" in the same sense as being alive once it is born. This is not to say that I think fetuses should just be eliminated from the womb but, instead we might all consider that doing that would not constitute murder A true parasite is a thing that cannot survive without a host to be nurtured from, therefore, it is a thing that can only be destroyed but not killed.
Of course this is my opinion, though before I did all the research, I thought as you do.
I find that the Catholic Churches take on birth control is a bit comical, get married, have babies, and if you are a man and can't marry, you can have young boys to have sex with.
As for Politics..... Poly = many, tics = blood sucking insects, and all in DC.
StraddleMyNose

Mar 16 @ 6:41PM  
For xquseme, I rarely, if ever, post anything here but I had to respond to you. I have made a study of both religion by society and society by religion, and read many "Holy" books, philosophy, and Metaphysics. For me, as I cannot vouch for anyone else, though if we though about it, we might all wonder how it is possible to kill something that is not really "alive". In most "Holy" books it clearly states that a "child" is not a child of God until it receives the "Breath of Life". So a fetus wold be considered not a child of God until it breathed, which in turn means it has to be born. Until then it is only a parasite as it needs the mother to stay "alive" though it is not "alive" in the same sense as being alive once it is born. This is not to say that I think fetuses should just be eliminated from the womb but, instead we might all consider that doing that would not constitute murder A true parasite is a thing that cannot survive without a host to be nurtured from, therefore, it is a thing that can only be destroyed but not killed.
I'm going to jump in here and say that I don't agree with your opinion about a fetus being a "parasite", and not a living being inside the mother until it takes it's first breath outside of the mother. We all have differenting opinions on when life begins.
xquseme

Mar 31 @ 8:37AM  
I'm sorry that I missed the last two posts from over two weeks ago. Here's a little
more of how I see the issue:

In my book, it's not whether you're going to Heaven or Hell, or whether you're offending
a superior being of one type or another. It's just about a reverence for life. It's better
to prevent an unwanted new life than to extinguish an existing one (and yes, in my
book, it IS a discrete, new life!) Why do I take this outlook? Well, it's like comparing
a "preborn" infant to a drinking cup. You can drink out of a nice, heavy glass tumbler,
or you can drink out of a disposable styrofoam cup. Since the glass tumbler cost more,
it is more valuable than the styrofoam cup and is less likely to be discarded. Once
you easily toss away that which is unwanted, it becomes more and more worthless.
After all the unwanted fetuses are discarded, then we switch to the other end of the
spectrum and start discarding the infirm and the elderly, since they're non-productive
members of society. THEN, the age for worthlessness begins to drop lower and lower,
and your limit for worthlessness becomes stricter and stricter. But you see where
I'm going with this.

See, it's not a moral issue (in my judgement, anyway). It's an issue of responsibility.
If you can't afford children, then you either use birth control or just don't have sex.
Otherwise, you're inviting undue burdens on yourself, your family, and ultimately
the government.

But that's just me...
Luvrgrl

Mar 31 @ 11:31AM  
I have to say, I love stuff like this. I love it because it is an opportunity for people to act reasonable in the face of something that really gets them wound up. And it can also teach us a lot about each other. This has been an interesting blog to say the LEAST!

Straddle, I think you have made your point, very clearly and articulaetly. (sorry, I can't spell that word) but anyways....

Luna, I think what might be a bit blurry for you, which is true for many....is that there seems to be an expectation that if someone professes to be a "Christian" they SHOULD not be acting like they are not. It seems there is an expectation for "Christians" to act a certain way. I struggle with this feeling of GUILT EVERY SINGLE FREAKING DAY! So, this is just my observation of what I am seeing here. I could be wrong. I am not at all in any way attacking you. However, you are getting mad about something that is always going to be an issue. people want to see themselves as good, they want to profess themselves as good....but the truth of the matter is that NO ONE is GOOD. Not a single one of us....and we never will be until we confess our sins to our creator and make the choice to follow Him. Even then, deciding to follow Christ doesn't get us a sprinkling of "perfect person" dust. We will STILL do crazy shit.

There is like a societal expectation that those of us that profess ourselves to be christians are supposed to act in some perfect way. I give up then. I try....and even that TIRES me out! I can't do it! So I just pray each day that God will bless me with whatever it is that I need to get thru the day to be the best that I can. But even then, I will still screw up.

Now- As for the whole BC issue-all I have to say about that is that, is that people need to be responsible for their own behavior and not expect that anyone else should create a way for them to not be or pay for their mistakes. If you can't afford something, then you need to find a way to afford it. Work more hours, eliminate certain things from your budget to allow for you to make sure you can afford the things that you do need. This BC issue is a minor issue. I don't agree with it, but I believe we have other bigger issues to address. For example, people on taxpayer funded health care in my state can get abortions and it is covered under their plan. I'm NOT down with that. But again, the people making the decisions, are clouded by their own opinions and perceptions and their own clouded moral compass....so...they are human too, and call themselves christians...thinking tey are doing the RIGHT thing....it's hard to keep that in mind when we have these types of conversations, I know.

Xready4funX

May 15 @ 1:20AM  
My reply to all of this is simple. Common sense should be the rule. Common sense doesn't seem to be very common any more though. I'm mostly against abortion. Except in cases such as the pregnancy being life threatening. Oh yes, I strongly believe in God. Not in the churches though. I have seen far to much hypocrasy and corruption. People who feel threatened by a beliefe in God are simply full of fear. Certain religions teach that people need to be subjicated and forced or coerced to belive in those religions. That's rediculous. An all powerful creator of the universe could take away free will if that was his desire.

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