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  StraddleMyNose

Do you think open primaries (where Republicans and/or dems can cross over and ask for the other party's ballots during the primary season to try to change the outcome to their liking.) should be allowed, and see nothing wrong with it, or do you think it makes for bad politics and unfairness?

I personally don't believe in open primaries. I think if you're a registered Republican or dem, you should be required to stick with your party.

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StraddleMyNose

Feb 29 @ 7:54PM  
And no, I still can't email on here. Contacted the site Sunday night and still haven't heard from them. I found out this afternoon that yet another member on here can't email either.
40DWM

Feb 29 @ 8:09PM  
Makes me think.....
The County where I work, WAY back when I was in College.....I'd get badmouthed
as "one of do'es Republicans", as I supported Ronald Reagen.

Nowadays, most of those in office, were once Democrats. I have good stories, how
some of 'em have said they 'could not get elected dog catcher as a Democrat' these
days. It's a common joke to call many, a 'RINO'. Even many in the Establishment
GOP are actually, Republican In Name Only.

HENCE......the 'Conservative vs. Liberal' debate.

Just because those like Romney SAY they are Republican, does not mean they
are.
StraddleMyNose

Feb 29 @ 8:12PM  
Just because those like Romney SAY they are Republican, does not mean they
are.
I agree!
StraddleMyNose

Feb 29 @ 8:39PM  
From 40WDM:

Have you seen the recent Louis Farrakhan rant against McDonald's?? Wow....
what a loose cannon.

No, I haven't.



somnium

Feb 29 @ 8:40PM  
Are open primaries good, or bad politics?

You mean there's such a thing as good politics too? Who woulda thought??


sugarnspice005

Feb 29 @ 9:06PM  
Why, if one is a hard core supporter of his/her party, would they want to vote in the primary of the other party?

But, then again, what about those who are Independent voters? Who don't support either party, but tend to vote both ways? Is it fair to restrict them to one or the other? This is a country where we have the right to vote. So....should limiting a person's right to vote for someone they support be allowed?
40DWM

Feb 29 @ 9:19PM  
There once was a fellow named Rush,
that instructed his listeners to blush.....
Operation Chaos it was called, for O'blamer it called,
to spend more cash against Hilary, he rallied.

Eventually he won, it was called,
but many a moolah it stalled....
If history repeats, it's always cash it depletes.....
Once again, it repeats.


(Those that don't learn from history, repeat it)
StraddleMyNose

Feb 29 @ 9:22PM  
But, then again, what about those who are Independent voters? Who don't support either party, but tend to vote both ways? Is it fair to restrict them to one or the other? This is a country where we have the right to vote. So....should limiting a person's right to vote for someone they support be allowed?
Like I stated, it should apply to those that have declared a party for themselves.
TwistAndShout

Feb 29 @ 9:31PM  
The County where I work, WAY back when I was in College.....I'd get badmouthed
as "one of do'es Republicans", as I supported Ronald Reagen.


Hmmmm... Are you sure they weren't badmouthing you because you were in college but couldn't spell "Reagan" correctly?
Wordsofwit

Feb 29 @ 9:33PM  
if one is a hard core supporter of his/her party, would they want to vote in the primary of the other party?

It could be argued that in year like this one where there is only one party where the presidential nominee is contested that people from the other party could vote for a candidate less like to win in the general election.

Question for you straddle, if things continue for your guy, Gingrich, like they have been and he bombs on super Tuesday, should he give up and throw in the towel?
StraddleMyNose

Feb 29 @ 9:40PM  
Question for you straddle, if things continue for your guy, Gingrich, like they have been and he bombs on super Tuesday, should he give up and throw in the towel?
That's not for me to decide.
sugarnspice005

Feb 29 @ 10:53PM  
Since I can remember, Michigan has always had open primaries, and from what I understand, those who are democrat typically participate in democratic primaries, and those who are republican typically participate in republican primaries.

I don't participate in primaries because I will not restrict myself to one party.
StraddleMyNose

Mar 1 @ 5:53AM  
Have you seen the recent Louis Farrakhan rant against McDonald's?? Wow....
what a loose cannon.

Okay, Just saw it on Fox News with the O'Reily Factor from last night.

My opinion of him hasn't changed. He's a nut job!
shewolf53

Mar 1 @ 7:43AM  
Personally I am for restructuring a few things. Do away with political parties and the primaries all together. Let each person run on their own merits in one election and the best man win. Abolish the fillbuster all together. Get rid of lobbyist all together and make it illegal for any business or group to seek special political favors from the government. If your congressman or senator is not doing his job he does not finish his or her term you kick their ass out of office in a special election. And if they are caught taking special interest money 20 year in prison. Bet that would cut down on corruption. Talk radio and news organizations on both sides need to stay the hell out of politics. Their job is to report the news not make it. Lesson 1 in journalism 101. Get the departments of the government like the EPA and the FDA to do their job and monitor what they are supposed to be monitoring withoug having to worry about some political party getting pissed off. I happen to like safe food and medicines as well as clean air and water. Some agencies need to be restructured to work better not done away with. Same goes for most programs as well. Go through government agencies and any job that duplicates the job someone else is doing is gone. We need the agencies not just three different ones doing the same thing. That goes for the military too. A lot of excess waste could be eliminated and the budget cut if they were allowed to buy through the open market for supplies instead of overpriced contracts. The budget would probably be cut by a third without having to do excessive downsizing. But any of this being done would involve logic and I have seen a lot of that missing over the last few years by both the politicians and the voters who put them into office.
Wordsofwit

Mar 1 @ 9:01AM  
A lot of excess waste could be eliminated and the budget cut if they were allowed to buy through the open market for supplies instead of overpriced contracts.

By law, most governemental arganizations must purchase items (including shipping) from the lowest bidder offering the item that meets the same specifications.
69oak69

Mar 1 @ 5:18PM  
Open primaries are like going down to the Elks Lodge(or which ever other organization) and wanting to sit in on their meetings and vote without ever joining their lodge.
somnium

Mar 1 @ 7:42PM  
Let each person run on their own merits in one election and the best man win.

Finally... someone who agrees with what I've said on AMD and elsewhere several times, regarding our election process! SCRAP IT!!! "Let each person stand on their own merits." Lay out a 'résumé' of what a candidate has accomplished while in office, who think they would 'qualify' them for a more responsible office!

Our election process as it is, is a total shambles and I for one am disgusted and embarrassed of how people get elected in our country! Whomever has the biggest financial 'war chest' and gives the most empty promises and delivers the most favors, WINS!

No more favors to special interests, no more electoral votes, no more year or two election campaigns that the citizens are paying for because the candidates aren't doing for that which they were elected for, while campaigning all this time and receiving donations from people looking for favors in return!

Can any of you honestly sit there in your chair and justify that our election process is fair and honest or are you going to 'shrug' it off by saying: "it's the American way!" It is NOT the American way, but it IS the politician's way!!

Obviously, our election process isn't working for us because we keep electing people with the same errant DNA characteristics as the previous candidates over the years over and over again- how stupid is that???

What used to be "for the people, by the people" changed years ago to: 'for the government, by the government'!

How we have lived in the past, how we're living now and how we'll live in the future, is totally our fault, for not controlling our politicians- instead, they have control over us!!

Just my 2¢ worth and then I probably have change coming back!


Wordsofwit

Mar 2 @ 8:55AM  
This is a good blog and I am going to give you a green diskie

Are open primaries good, or bad politics?

There a significant number of people that do not vote a straight ticket in general elections. To a large extent the parties can be viewed as republican/conservative and democrat/liberal. I contend, and have expressed it many times, that there is major segment of voters that is moderate, neither significantly conservative or liberal. Many of these people consider themselves to be independent and reject party affiliation.

Consequently, I feel that these people have the right to vote for who ever they want in the primaries.

As a twist, they could face a tough decision. What if their preference in the primary for the presidential nominee is a republican and their preference in the primary for the senatorial or congressional nominee is a democrat


shewolf53

Mar 2 @ 10:19AM  

By law, most governemental arganizations must purchase items (including shipping) from the lowest bidder offering the item that meets the same specifications.


Yes and no. They might go with the lowest price a contractor offers however many times the same item is offered to the general public at a much lower price. For example there was a certain part that sold by contract for $5.00 for electronics by the lowest bidding contractor but was sold at local electronics store for $2.50. That does not sound like much but it is a common part and the military uses millions of them. It all adds up. It is a well known fact that contractor prices are not always the lowest price on the item. So while they are going with the lowest bid they are not getting it at the lowest price available. It is a waste of the tax payers money.
StraddleMyNose

Mar 2 @ 8:53PM  
This is a good blog and I am going to give you a green diskie
Thanks, Bruce!

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