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posted 7/24/2011 4:10:39 PM |
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I'm in trouble again. I've been thinking and what i'm thinking may cost more than what I will be able to save. As hot as it's been lately, I know my electric bill is going to sky rocket, and saving a few bucks here and there has been on my mind a lot lately. A blog from another MD'r got me to thinking how he could get by in a power outage, and from there, wellllllllllll...

Anyway I got to looking around some this morning and afternoon, looking at possible options, and i'm thinking solar power. Not the expensive ones that would cost more than this place is worth to buy and have installed, but building my own panels, wiring in an inverter large enough to run what I need at times, like the a/c and heat, and maybe the well pump when the power is out for a few hours to days. The batteries for storage will cost a bunch, but the panels can be built for a lot less than they can be bought. It isn't quite as simple as I make it sound here, but they are not hard to make, and all the supplies can be had on ebay, or from other suppliers. A rough guess is about 1200 to get enough juice to run this whole house with space heaters as needed, or a/c, the window units anyway. But, the well is 220, so have to dig a little deeper to see what I need for that. Now if I could find a couple of the batteries they use in fork lifts, I could probably run this place for a couple of days without using a bit of juice from the power company.

There is also wind power, but not as much wind here as it would take to make it really feasible. So, sun power looks like my next misadventure.

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Jul 24 @ 8:07PM  
I don't intend to get real lengthy on my comment but, I am also into alternative energy but it's not a subject you read a couple books about and 'have' at it! It's a whole new industry!

I like the idea of solar cell arrays for generating electrical power to charge a bank of batteries- [should be marine deep cycle batteries]- auto batteries are designed for short bursts and kept charged with an alternator- marine batteries are designed for longer, lower current discharge cycles! Output of the solar cell arrays, needs to be higher than the batteries in the bank! Then you need control circuits to keep the batteries charged properly!

Next as you suggested, you will need inverters to convert the approximately 12 Volts DC from the batteries, to standard household current of 110 Volts AC. You can buy very expensive inverters to do the job for your house but I don't see any reason why you can't bypass your breaker panel to run 12 Volts DC through your house wiring [if you know how to do that] and buy smaller inverters to use where needed! You'll have to figure out how much power each appliance needs, then buy an inverter with double the capacity- minimum! So, you plug your inverter into the outlet with 12 Volt DC coming into it and you get your 110 Volts AC outputted to your appliance! For 220 Volts AC, just use a properly rated 1:2 step up transformer and don't forget to ground everything where needed!

Solar water heater for your hot water needs is plausible- just run the output of it, to the input of your hot water tank!

That's just a basic, rudimentary offline system, to get you off grid! You may have a fight on your hands as far as disconnecting yourself from their [utilities] 'cash cow' but you'll have to check into all that ahead of time!

It's my basic system, if I ever get into a house for permanent residence!

Do a lot of research on the internet! You'll come across tons of offers like DIY books on this stuff but, I consider a lot of it is crap!

Get whatever info you can get for free! Look to Youtube for alternative energy ideas!

Good luck and have fun!


Jul 25 @ 7:20PM  
I got a wood stove and some old oil latterns that will surfice it things get rough. Plenty to eat around here with the garden and fruit trees, wild game too. I may dig me a root celler to store Veg. in for the winter mo.

Jul 26 @ 1:52AM  
One of my friends back in NZ had what was called a chip heater. Basically it was the copper hot water supply tank with a small fireplace beneath it. the flue ran up through the center of the tank and heated the water. they fed it with trash from their house and their neighbors houses. From that he had run copper tubing around all the baseboards in the house on the way to the bathrooms, kitchen and laundry. It kept the house nice and toasty in winter. there was a bypass valve to shut off the baseboard section in summer.

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