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  dulsinea

Is wrong in any sense of the word.

If you are responsible with a blog, you will post ALL replies to it, not just the ones you like.....



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canuhelpme258

Jan 14 @ 4:56AM  
Having read your comments on Straddles blog, I disagree. Normally I agree, but you're just being mean in everything you've said. Sorry, but at a certain point, the dumb shit must stop, If Straddle has blocked you, he reached that point then.
canuhelpme258

Jan 14 @ 5:30AM  
I thought so hypocrite!
Raven_Silverfire

Jan 14 @ 5:42AM  
If a person is gonna use their comments to take pot shots at the blog creator, no wonder their comment isn't approved/erased. Think on that one for awhile
openmindedguy71

Jan 14 @ 5:43AM  
Posting comments responsibly is only have the picture. There are a lot of people on here who write blogs. Some write about serious matters and some for humor. Every person who reads the blogs have different tastes in what they feel is acceptable. A responsible blogger will post all coments, but a responsible reader will know that they shouldn't comment negatively on Bloags that they find distasteful. So the responsible mebers of this community should strive to have a friendly coexistance. If you don't like and can't remake tastefully and positively then you have nothing to offer to the Blog you shouldn't comment. If you write a blog you should be able to post all comments about it and know that while there may occasionally be critisism and differences in taste and opinions that you can at least expect people to post in a positive manner something that contributes to the Blog. And under no cercumstances should anyone, Blogger or reader ever resort to name calling. it is just unbecoming of intelligent people. Hope that this helps somebody. I know that every community has trolls and they only make life miserable so most people want the comments to there blogs without the problems started by trolls.
dulsinea

Jan 14 @ 6:03AM  
Canuhelpme,

I posted the blog....then having a life...left for awhile. Sorry if that bothered you. I have absolutely no intention of censoring anything.

It's wrong.

And your double standard is as amusing as hell.

You criticize ME for calling someone a name and then you do the same.

I'm not at all surprised.
dulsinea

Jan 14 @ 6:04AM  
CENORSHIP IS NEVER RIGHT.

Amazing that some of you can defend it.

Y'all must have voted for Bush........
canuhelpme258

Jan 14 @ 6:09AM  
Execpt for the fact I don't start the fights,
i don't go looking for them or take a harmless joke blog and try to turn it into a rally point to showcase my close mindedness.

Anyone here done that?
dulsinea

Jan 14 @ 6:09AM  
By the way...Canuhelpme....

I responded to your childish garbage in Straddle's blog..but he censored it.

If you think your remarks bothered me, then darlin....you really need to try harder. Your words made YOU look disgusting...not me.

Raven_Silverfire

Jan 14 @ 6:10AM  
there's a difference between censorship and deciding not to acknowledge someone's attempt to slander them. When one's comments are nothing more than calling someone sick or a pig i don't honestly blame the recipient of the comment for deleting them
canuhelpme258

Jan 14 @ 6:12AM  
I am the self professed rudest crudest guy here, disgusting? great I was only going for disturbing, if I hit disgusting, then I over did the job...
dulsinea

Jan 14 @ 6:12AM  
So far....most of you think its ok to censor a blog?

That's just wonderful
openmindedguy71

Jan 14 @ 6:15AM  
are you kidding I voted for peewee herman.. gotta respect a man who stayed in the buisness after losing his dignity jacking off in a theatre. The only Bush I want is the kind that has been screwing stuffed animals......

Personally I can do without the skidmark panties but never deny what someone else likes. However The only person I would call a pig on this site is myself. And I can laugh at myself just fine.

I defend freedom of speech, but when your freedom of speech invades someone elses right to privacy and happiness then you are the one that is wrong. Freedom of speech is not an open license to be rude and offensive to others and if you feel it is then I hope that everyone on here censors you.
dulsinea

Jan 14 @ 6:16AM  
Raven,

you're a bit over the top...

Unless "Straddlymynose" is his REAL name, then it isn't "slander." A fictional name cannot be slandered.

And I'm sorry that it takes something so minor for you to approve of censorship. That's pretty sad.
dulsinea

Jan 14 @ 6:18AM  
Canuhelpme....

U give yourself too much credit.

Although I can't believe you're an aquarian.....

Raven_Silverfire

Jan 14 @ 6:20AM  
Though StraddleMyNose may be a screenname, there is a real person behind the name and it is considered slander to call the person childish names like and easily upset schoolgirl. I find it sad that you would resort to childishness to make yourself feel better about something you thought was gross or unfair, Perhaps you should learn to handle things that upset you like an adult.
dulsinea

Jan 14 @ 6:26AM  
Openmindedguy....

Again, I'm sorry something so minor is a condition in your world to ok censorship.

Freedom of speech is freedom of speech. You are either for it or against it...there is no middle ground.

I made one comment that some of you found offensive.....and have put up with a LOT of offensive comments in return.

As far as my being "closed minded"......LMAO. That is a first time EVER accusation for me.....and not true at all.

I just have a strong distaste for foul, crude comments that I think are degrading...AND the right to say it.

openmindedguy71

Jan 14 @ 6:32AM  
I think it is really a simple thing if you don't like what somone writes the don't read it. If you read and decided that you didn't like it then don't comment on it. If you feel so strongly that a comment is necessary then find a positive way to contribute to the discussion and if you can't then just go away and leave it alone. How hard is it. I mean simply reading a blog does not commit you to having to write a comment on it. If it did then every guy on here who read a profile would be obligated to write to women whose profile he read. You wouldn't like that. 150 guys a day that had nothing in common with you or interest in finding the same thing your were looking for writing to you feeling obligated because they read your profile.

And you think what Straddle wrote is sick. o.k. you don't agree with it. But it is so much more sick to continue hounding the subject after your initional comment. you said your piece move on.... So simple even a caveman can do it. And you get upset because somone wants to discard you offensive comments.. After you said he was sick, what did you want him to do? why did you keep commenting? It is not your job to govern the morality of the people on this adult community. so please leave it at this and move on. The longer you drag it out the worse you look.
dulsinea

Jan 14 @ 6:46AM  
oh, I see how it is Openminded....

So you should ONLY reply to a blog if you like it....

If you don't like it or find it offensive, then you are supposed to ignore it and move on.....

Thats ridiculous and it even SOUNDS ridiculous.

Where did you get your forum name from? You don't seem to be all that open minded to me.

And just for a little aside info....

I tried to concede that I might be wrong to use the "pig" word.....but then continued to get email after email from Straddle....and nasty comments in his blog.
And comments about it in other blogs.....

And I still think the blog was "piggish."

dulsinea

Jan 14 @ 6:53AM  
ummmm.....I'm not the one dragging it out.

I worked all night. I'm going to bed for awhile. I don't want to be accused of NOT posting someone's comments....I will get to it later.
openmindedguy71

Jan 14 @ 6:59AM  
You like so many people in this country go around stating idealistic rights without understanding how they work. You have a right to freedom of speech. Straddle has a right to freedom of self expression. I have right to read what is written and form an opinion about it. Now all three of us have rights and all three of us have different opinions about what was written. you claim you right to free speech gives you the right to be rude and call names over a blog you found distasteful. Straddle was just expressing himself through writing. I like most people who have read accept that you didn't like what you read. Fine you did not like it. Instead of trying to find a positive way of contributing to the blog even though you didn't agree with what he said you chose to respond in a negative manner. and then continued to read the responses others had written and I believe you even called someone else sick who had written a comment. So for all of this Blog that you found distasteful you were rude to countless people, offensive to some, even try to ridicule me to make yourself look better and all you had to do if you didn't like was leave it alone. To me that makes it look like you were wrong. And just so you know just because you have right doesn't mean you can exercise it without acting responsibly. Your right to freedom of speech ends when it impedes on someone elses rights. You don't get rights and noone else does that isn't how it works. and the only person here that seems closed minded about anything is you. actually read and understand what people are writing don't just assume that it is an attack against you.
CrazyCraveman

Jan 14 @ 7:21AM  
I admit I really have no idea as to what this it all about, as in the little spat that's going on. Nor do I care to be honest with everyone, as it's none of my business, and it doesn't concern me. As I simply don't want to get caught up in the middle of it...

I don't really know Straddle, however, I think he's pretty cool. He might be a bit, ok, he might be way out there at times in my opinion. But he's never done anything to me, and as I said...I think he's OK!

Nor do I know dulsinea, actually I never knew she even exsisted until now. So I really can't say anything about her, be it good, bad, positive, or negative.

Anyhow with that being said, I'm not picking sides...and truth is, I really have no idea as to why I'm rambling on like a babbling fool...lol

So I'll just add my 2 cents, for what it's worth...on how I feel about blogs...


I've posted 3 blogs on AMD, and I have ALL my blogs set to auto-approve. As I look at it like this...if I'm going to post a blog in which I give of my thoughts, and my opinion on whatever it might be.

I don't feel it's right of me to censor anyone's comments and or opinions. I'm not going to sit there and read each comment and then say to myself...

OK, that comment is not worthy of being posted, while thinking this comment is worthy of being posted. I don't feel I should say/think/feel that this opinion is wrong, and say/think/feel that this other opinion is right.

As I feel there isn't a wrong opinion, and there isn't a right opinion. Be it negative, or positive.

OK, I'm done rambling on...

*Takes his chaulk in hand, and heads for the door*
chazindolphins

Jan 14 @ 7:49AM  
I like to read blogs, I must admit that to me some blog responses are stupid and one sided so I would mostly pick the ones I like
cutecarrie6969

Jan 14 @ 9:12AM  
I actually agree. Everyone has a right to be heard and everyone should be allowed to voice their opinions. If that means arguing back and forth like children like both sides did, then so be it.
ShadowsAngel

Jan 14 @ 9:34AM  
All of the "rights" that we have are wonderful things. Unfortunately most are never taught something that I learned before I was 3 years old. That being: Your rights stop where someone else's rights begin.

Yep you have the right to comment on whatever you want to in someone's blog and they have the right to delete your comments. In a perfect world that would be the end of it; unfortunately, that seems to raise the ire of some folks.

Angel
ShadowsAngel

Jan 14 @ 10:15AM  
Oh and aren't you doing the same thing when you send all comments to your inbox for your approval rather than posting them automatically?

Pot meet kettle.
dulsinea

Jan 14 @ 10:56AM  
Well, finally a couple people with voices of reason.

This is my first blog here. I didn't know you could set them to "automatic approval" and still don't know how.

Thanks, CuteCarrie for messaging me and telling me that and not jumping to conclusions like other people here.....but I still don't see where to do that.

ynot7769

Jan 14 @ 11:05AM  
ohhhh well fuck.!!! how did i miss this and wich damn blog are we talkin bout.?? got eveybody in a tizzy?? gona be pages of shit here and probably won't solve much...me? hell i'm ok with it but i won't post an opinion till i know wich blog ....skidmarks? must i read them all over again ...and IF it is...well hell WHO would like skid marks? thats nasty BUT the right to write bout it or any other perversion thats legal ..aint that part of what this place is for?
zena343

Jan 14 @ 11:14AM  
I feel everyone has a right to comment on someones blog even if it is not exactly what kind of comment they are looking for......but I also feel that we should use respect also. Respecting one another goes along way

Zena
jump9

Jan 14 @ 12:06PM  
I think every comment here has made some good points,(including the little guy that don't spel two wel, with the "S" on his chest and a hand wrapped around him, could be obsessive/compullsive behavior)....This is not the real world and freedom of comment will always be subject to approval by the queen cockroach and her band of cockroach luv. Yes, they have a double standard and thats too be expected by the people whose brains HAVE NOT been ravaged by the late stages of syphilis. We could start our own community per say and blog and wait for the queen cockroach to rear her diseased head. I commented on the queen's latest blog. Its waiting "Insects" approval....lol
Argit01

Jan 14 @ 12:42PM  
I allow all comments to be posted on my blogs but I won't accept name calling as it is disrespectful. Why post a comment merely to start an argument? Not all censorship is wrong, if it was you would know a lot of things you didn't want to know. Sometimes censorship is necessary to protect a nations security, to protect those who are vulnerable and even to protect children.
Censorship on this site normally only take place when people resort to making personal attacks on someone just because they find their blog distasteful. As has been said many times if you don't like it you don't have to read it.
BananaBoy4u

Jan 14 @ 12:44PM  
Good job Dulsinea; nothing like a good blog to get people's blood boiling. Stick that paddle in the bucket of sh*t and give it another turn! I believe that there shouldn't even be an option to post or block a post to any blog. If you started it and feel strongly about it then "man up" and have the courage of your convictions. It is pretty much black and white; you are either for it or against it, there is no gray. I agree with Zena that common courtesy should apply but such is not the case here or in real life. It is any person's option to accept, agree, ignore or dispute anyone's opinion. Opinions are like a**holes; everyone's got one!
dulsinea

Jan 14 @ 1:02PM  
Jump...your comments confused me a little as I don't know whom you are referring to....

Argit....I apologized for the name calling. Nothing more I can do about that. And I totally disagree with you....NO censorship is a good. We either have freedom of speech or we don't.

Bananaboy....thanks!
enjoyingitall

Jan 14 @ 1:30PM  
i posted the following in a blog yesterday or day before. i'm bringing it to this blog because though it worked for that blog - it REALLY works for this one:

there are a few bloggers/posters that no matter what is written - they feel compelled to respond to it. and well - they are in here as well. they are the one's that no matter what they write - their little "click" immediately responds and pats them on the back, which in turn causes the others to pat them on the back until they have hijacked the blog. i would say there are about 10 to 15 of them and most (not all) are in here.

LOL - i'm quite sure I'll hear about this...

looked at an individuals profile last night - they have posted almost 110 blogs - about nothing. they are a pompouss ass in my book, but hey - we all have our own opinion - some think this person is god. and well there is another that has them beat by a mile. it not how much they write, it's just - these people are self absorbed. they write about shit that no one (except their little following) wants to read about. everyone here knows who i'm talking about. i dont have to say names. we get the same drvel every day. different title, but its the same. if they would come up with something new or unique it would be different but i really dont think they are capable.

would like for AMD to list what posts (not just forum posts) but blog posts people did in their profile. it would really show what type of person you were. what you write about in your own blog is one thing - what you post in anothers is something entirely different...

what is really sad is - if someone outside this click posts something - they normally get jumped on IF these people dont like it and normally they dont. which in turn deters people from posting.

yeah - i quoted myself - shoot me...

i tell ya people - what is sad - these 10-15 people are the ones that keep saying others should leave... maybe, just maybe they are the problem and not everyone else... it seems as though they keep saying the hate is coming from oneside but to me it looks as if all the hate and anger is coming from them.
enjoyingitall

Jan 14 @ 1:51PM  
dulsinea - let me 1st say - my last post wasnt about you... its about the "click" that i was talking about.. and yes - they are here too...

secondly - i think it is totally deplorable how they treated you. and it was the "click" coming to defend one of it's own. its ok for one of them to defame or demean someone else and they are all fine and dandy with it but let anyone say anything about one of their own and they all jump all over that person. it makes it looks as if EVERYONE is jumping on you but - its about 10-15 people (the click)....

they need to get a grip and play like good children. they act like children - might as well call them children too..
Dominus

Jan 14 @ 2:01PM  
The only time I "censor" blog responses is for the following reasons:

Repeat entries: There's no need to post the same comment two or three times if it was from the same person.

Globally offensive material: Material that breaks blog rules by targeting a specific group (e.g., Asians, bisexuals, etc.) and directs "hate comments" towards them.

Individually offensive material: Material that breaks blog rules by posting private information.

Incoherent material: A blog response that due to typos or some other reason is thoroughly incoherent.

However, in the case of the last three, I will even post a blog respone in those cases but I'll suggest that the author reworks their material. For example I wouldn't allow them to post something like "Irish Paddys are all fucked up drunks"; but if they rewrote it to "most Irish i have known are heavy drinkers" I'd post it right away. The first one is globally offensive to a group and those that associate with them, but the seccond describes a personal experience, which is completely legitimate.

Yeah, maybe I am playing blog police, but there is something to note. Just because someone is speaking doesn't mean they have something that is worth saying. Sure, that's elitist, but then I never claimed not to be.
dulsinea

Jan 14 @ 2:09PM  
Dominus....its up to you if you want to be the blog police...but I feel that if someone takes the time to add their thoughts to a blog, they should be heard...no matter what they say. If they say the wrong thing...it is their own words to be responsible for. (trust me, I know!!)

Enjoyinitall....

Thank you. I learned a lesson from it. If I think someones blog is in bad taste (as that one most definitely was)...I will comment on the blog and not the person.

Have a great day!
openmindedguy71

Jan 14 @ 2:29PM  
Thank you. I learned a lesson from it. If I think someones blog is in bad taste (as that one most definitely was)...I will comment on the blog and not the person.


That is all anyone has asked of you. Nobody cares that you didn't like what he wrote. But you made a personal attack against the author of the blog and at least one other person who responded to the blog and continued to be rude about the whole thing after it should have died. I think Everyone who wants to respond to this should Read the original blog and the comments of all concerned before the start throwing you cudos. You are no hero, you are no savior, You are not the voice of reason that will lead the common people away from blog oppression. Just accept that you went the wrong direction with name calling and personal attacks against a blog poster and go on your way. And yes if you read most of anything writtten by the "click" as it is called you will see what most anyone is commenting on is treatment of individuals because you didn't like what they wrote. That is what this whole thing is about. Now this whole blog you have hear is not about freedom of speech. it is about you wanting people to think you were right to treat somone like shit. So, tell people in your blog the whole story. Don't try to wrap constitutional into a thinly veiled attempt to break blog rules and insult people.
belle1010

Jan 14 @ 2:43PM  
I don't agree with censoring anyones comments. I personally allow all comments, because i think all opinions have merit, not just the ones that agree with me. That just happens to be my personal preference, not everyone is like that, and that's ok. From what I understood from all of what's been going on, Straddle just wanted an apology, AND from what i understand he got one. It's wasn't so much what you said as how you decided to state it.
Stubbsy

Jan 14 @ 2:45PM  
Freedom of speech is the concept of the inherent human right to voice one's opinion publicly without fear of censorship or punishment. This is not a public place. It's a commercial website, and anything posted herein can be ethically censored by the website or those they authorize.

That said, anyone 'censoring' a comment you post in a blog is only forbidding you to post that comment in one place. You can place that comment anywhere else, including your own blog, if you care to. I hardly consider that censorship.

CENORSHIP IS NEVER RIGHT.

There are several newsgroups I read with regularity that I would never read if they weren't moderated (ie censored.) Big surprise. I wouldn't read the blogs here if they weren't restricted to comments from members of the site.

Freedom of speech is freedom of speech. You are either for it or against it...there is no middle ground.

Sure. Unfortunately, your definition of 'freedom of speech' clashes with the more common meaning of the phrase. Perhaps anarchy would provide the freedom you seek?

dulsinea

Jan 14 @ 2:47PM  
openminded...

Sorry...I replied to your blog in a personal email...I didn't realize your comments were on the blog...

So here is what I replied to you:

"WTF do you want? BLOOD?

My blog was NOT about what happened with Straddle...well not completely. Its about ANYONE censoring blogs...because I have read about it in other blogs.

I can't apologize in the skidmark post as Straddle has censored my blogs...so I did it in Sxze's blog.

I'm done with it now.....get over it. I was wrong for a direct name call...and I admitted it...but I still think his blog is offensive and "piggish" "

enjoyingitall

Jan 14 @ 2:49PM  
Yeah, maybe I am playing blog police, but there is something to note. Just because someone is speaking doesn't mean they have something that is worth saying. Sure, that's elitist, but then I never claimed not to be.

Dom - that's the problem.. you are trying to put yourself above everyone else.. but - as we all know - you are not capable of that - except in your own little world. you should also heed your own words in that - just because you have something to say - it doesnt mean it's worth saying.. well - except to you and that's the angle you either fail to realize or dismiss in others - if someone says something - it's important enough to them to say. and you should respect them enough to accept that.
dulsinea

Jan 14 @ 2:50PM  
Stud...

Some of your comments make sense.

However, if I respond to someone's blog because I want to comment on what he or she said and he or she won't allow my response...they are censoring me. I am not going to go post it somewhere else if it is a reply to their blog....I'm just going to let go of it.

I feel if a person has a blog here...he or she should be willing to accept whatever response it generates and to respect those who take time to respond to it...no matter what their opinion.

The person who owns the blog doesn't own the reply of the others.....
openmindedguy71

Jan 14 @ 3:21PM  
I sent this as message reply to your email and also wanted to post it here.

Nobody wants blood. and you just said yourself that the thing with straddle was at least part of the reason why you posted this blog. Like everyone here has said. Nobody cares that you didn't like it. And writing a comment and saying I do not agree with you and find it distasteful would have conveyed your opinion. Everyone agrees it is ok to not like what someone wrote. I personally like Straddle as a person, even though I find some of his postings a little odd. If I do not like the particular Blog I simply do not respond. While I understand that you feel what was written was offensive, It was not originally intended to be or in actuallity directed at you. I do support the freedom of speech and I akways have and I always will. But The freedom to speak your mind crosses a line sometimes and I think if crossing that line offends somebody and they have the power to block further offensive coments real or percieved, then they also have that right. Noone is denying your right to free speech. However noone should be denied the option to not listen to what you have to say. Simply having the right to speak freely doesn't meen you have to. Every person should have the right to exclude comments if they want. If the general population of the community feels it is wrong, fewer and fewer people will read and respond to that persons blogs. The diversity of a site like AMD means that there are lots of people who wont agree on things. We don't have to, that is a privelege of living in a free country.
I am not trying to attack you and With the exception of the comment on sxze blog every thing I written reguarding this has been merely conveying the same message. And that is why is it so important to you that noone censors their blog. How does it hurt you? how does it offend you? what discomfort is the lack of something someone wrote and had discarded going to have on your life. Fighting for the right of free speech is noble and it is a right that we as country should work very hard to maitain. However freedom of expression is also a right and worth fighting for. And I think at least for me all anybody realy wanted was an acknowledgement that personal attacks are wrong and will not be accepted by the majority of the community. I don't want anything from you, I don't need to be right or wrong. But If there is a blog that debates the validity of freedom of speech and freedom of expression, then I think People need to see all sides of the story.

I apologise about the delusional remark. Just as it was wrong for you to call people a pig, I was wrong in writing that. While it may not have bothered you nearly as much as Straddle fealt bothered, it was still wrong.

I hope that this message conveys to you the idea that I don't personally have anything against you. And you like everyone else is free to speak your mind and express your opinions. but expect the same in return.
openmindedguy71

Jan 14 @ 3:30PM  
I don't understand were you are going with this.

you should also heed your own words in that - just because you have something to say - it doesnt mean it's worth saying.. well - except to you and that's the angle you either fail to realize or dismiss in others - if someone says something - it's important enough to them to say. and you should respect them enough to accept that.


Your telling someone that because they have something to say that it may not be important enough to tell everyone else so he should not say it and then telling the same person that he should respect others and accept what they have to say if the person saying it feels that it is important.

If I misunderstood what you meant please explain what your were trying to say. if this is indeed what you were trying to say then how can you in good consience support one persons right to free speech and tell somone else that they don't have the same right.

if that is truly how you feel, then don't read what that person has to say.
Rikosound

Jan 14 @ 4:06PM  
I don't think censoring is good with anything as long as it is among adults if the topic is adult in nature! If you don't like it then don't read it! Same with music! Don't listen to it! Don't buy it! There's enough "Big Brother" around as it is! Hell they're probably here!
Stubbsy

Jan 14 @ 4:45PM  
Stud...

Some of your comments make sense.

It's Stubbsy, but I won't take offense to Stud. I hope all of my comments make sense.


However, if I respond to someone's blog because I want to comment on what he or she said and he or she won't allow my response...they are censoring me. I am not going to go post it somewhere else if it is a reply to their blog....I'm just going to let go of it.

I guess we'll agree to disagree on whether or not they're censoring you.


I feel if a person has a blog here...he or she should be willing to accept whatever response it generates and to respect those who take time to respond to it...no matter what their opinion.

Other people don't share your opinion. And, no matter what your opinion, shouldn't you respect theirs?


The person who owns the blog doesn't own the reply of the others.....

The website giving the ability to the blogger to disallow or delete comments suggest that particular statement is inaccurate.

dulsinea

Jan 14 @ 4:49PM  
Openminded....

How long does it take you to stop beating a dead horse?

I never said he didn't have the right to say it.....just as I have the right to post what I think about itl.

And yes...the ACTION of straddle censoring my blog gave me the idea for the topic.....as well as what I have read here about others being censored or policed. It wasn't directed at his blog exlusively or I would have said that.

Thanks for the apology though.....I appreciate it.
ShadowsAngel

Jan 14 @ 7:53PM  
Do you even realize that with this statement:

I never said he didn't have the right to say it.....just as I have the right to post what I think about itl.

You are saying that your right to comment supercedes (is more important) than the rights of anyone else including the person who owns the blog? Remember what I said earlier about your rights stopping where someone else's begin? Your rights are not more important than anyone else's.

Yes, you have the right to post whatever you want as a comment to someone's blog and so long as it doesn't violate TOS or isn't offensive the comment should stand. The problem is that your comments were offensive.

Why do you believe that your right to say something is more important than someone else's right to not listen to you?

Angel
Raven_Silverfire

Jan 15 @ 4:30AM  
now i'll admit reading back on my comments that i could have worded them better to get my point across. For that i apologize. I'm not advocating blog censorship, but I still think there's a difference between pulling comments from a blog cuz they go against the point you're trying to make and pulling comments that are derogatory against the blogs creator.
dulsinea

Jan 15 @ 8:31AM  
Shadow's Angel,

#1....I have apologized and agreed I could have handled it better. I don't know what more you want, but that's all your getting.

#2...this blog was directed at ALL censorship...not just Straddle's post and his censorship habits

#3....I don't know WHAT you are reading into my comments that isn't there, but you seem to have trouble with the point I am making. I have just as much right to reply to a blog as the person who blogged it. Period. If he or she chooses to censor it, then so be it....but I feel that is wrong on many different levels...all of which I have mentioned.

Never once did I say my rights are more than his or anyone else's...nor would I.

You seem to want to continue to build a mountain out of a molehill, I'm not. You can say whatever you want in this blog, but I'm done addressing the Straddle issue with you.

There just isn't enough time in the day....
enjoyingitall

Jan 15 @ 9:42AM  
dulsinea - OMG - i just saw what you wrote to straddle.. of course everyone referenced in here but i never read it for myself... until now...

you never once called him a pig. you said he sounded like one.. there is a HUGE difference... but then again - he took offense to me asking if his name was rich (inferring he was a dick) - which we (at least i have) closed the book on.

Personally, I think you sound like a pig, Straddle, and I don't think this is funny at all.......

i wonder how many women (it seems to be a term women like to use) have called guys pigs (actually called them a pig - not that they sounded like one) in here and it wasnt blown up like this....

you were in your right to say what you said. and i really dont see what the problem is.. i really think you got jumped on because he felt harmed. he's an extremely sensitive guy - at least when he feels threatened (you couldnt tell it from his blog subject matter). its ok for him to lash out or say something to you - but he can't take as good as he gets. hell for that matter - he cant take it at all...
JJN4Fun

Jan 15 @ 12:17PM  
I'm not even going to bother reading all the comments here - the arguments, put-downs, and biting remarks...I've got the gist of this in reading just a few. Still, I'd like to add my thoughts on just a few things here.

First - SHE APOLOGIZED! I honestly don't know what more people could want from her. To kiss someone's feet and grovel for forgiveness? If anyone thinks I'd do that, you are sadly mistaken. I've not seen her continue to insult people - all I'm seeing is her defending herself now - and people seem to be getting upset that she is. To me, this is just wrong. What I'm seeing here is a lot of "the midget calling the munchkin "short"...

With respect to the topic of censorship, I believe that anyone has the right to not accept being insulted (slammed, called names, whatever). To make a statement that is contrary to something else that has been said is fine - I have no problem with that - let a discussion or debate ensue. But when someone injects his or her self into a discussion for the sole purpose of trying to hurt or insult someone - as jump9 did in my blogs - I see no reason that anyone should have to put up with that kind of shit. You're damned skippy I blocked him from emailing me - which, in turn, blocked him from posting comments to my blogs, etc...oh fucking well. Call me a hypocrite...doesn't bother me one bit. My settings are still set to automatically approve all comments to my blogs - but I do reserve the right to delete any comments left that aren't meant to contribute to the discussion and are only intended to hurt or insult. Fuckin' sue me if you don't like it.

Even if I didn't agree with or like Dulsinea's comment in Straddle's blog, I at least can give her credit for stating why she was making the comment...and her reason was totally related to the content of the blog (she was offended at it - so what? Isn't that her right?). I've said it before and I'll keep on saying it - it wasn't the message she wanted to get across that I didn't like; I simply didn't care for her choice of words. Jump9, on the other hand, came in and said "you stink" to me...on more than one blog. I see a huge difference between what she did and what this prick jump9 did.
dulsinea

Jan 15 @ 4:40PM  
Enjoyinitall and sxzye..thank you both for sticking up for me.

And I know I didn't directly call him a "pig" enjoyitall....but he seemed to feel that way. I was following correct forum protocol for the forums I post in, this one seems to be more sensitive, so I am learning to watch that.

I still think his blog was disgusting but whatever.

JJN4Fun

Jan 15 @ 7:38PM  
So....how 'bout them Mets?!?


Are we ready to get back to flirting and being naughty? That sounds like more fun to me! Have a good night everyone!
openmindedguy71

Jan 15 @ 10:14PM  
I know that I would like this ended as much as anyone else. I will have nothing to say requarding this after today. However I am going to point out a few things. Yes you did apologise, apparently for the second time now and both times you come back and something foolish after it should be over.

These are your words from this very post. they are above for everyone to see.

And I know I didn't directly call him a "pig" enjoyitall....but he seemed to feel that way. I was following correct forum protocol for the forums I post in, this one seems to be more sensitive, so I am learning to watch that.


Now these are the words from your comments on Straddles blog the he wrote on jan 1

Personally, I think you sound like a pig, Straddle, and I don't think this is funny at all.......


and

You people are simply amazing. You don't care that he post something so filthy and crude, but it bothers you that I called him a "pig" over it? Wow......


Now in this blog you say you didn't call him a pig? but we see hear that you indeed said he sounded like a pig. What does that mean? your opinion of him is that he is a pig. And you admit in the same blog that you called him a pig.

Before you continue lying about what has happened and keep fighting the good fight over your percieved right to your voice heard, think about what is here. you have purposely went through peoples comments and picked apart only parts that you could twist to your sick ideas of preserving justice on the blogs, and I am not the only one to see it. Now you have "apologised to Straddle and then come back again to say you never even did it in the first place."

You are a hypocrite and a lyar and back stabber. You have made a fool out of your self and tried to with others just to bully your way into insulting people and I grant you that you as Far as I am concerned and many others as well I am sure you are not part of this community. So have a happy life finding what it is you are looking for.

dulsinea

Jan 16 @ 6:30AM  
Openminded.....

I don't know what the hell you are talking about. I haven't gone through ANY blogs and picked out parts of them. I don't even know how to quote sections of blogs. I think you are so hell bent on hearing your own voice beating a dead horse over and over that you didn't realize it was another poster who picked out sections and quoted them.

You don't want this to end at all. You want to keep picking at it like a ten year old.

I am not new to forum posting or protocol. I know that it is against TOS to directly call a person a pig. That is why I said that Straddle "sounded like a pig" in his disgusting post. However, there seems to be an extreme level of sensitivity on this board that I have not encountered. In that sense, I felt that I may have stepped over the line and I apologized.

The rest of this is just plain annoying. If you think I should act all sorry and humble and kiss ass.....then forget it.

I don't apologize unless I feel I was wrong or unless I am convinced I could have been wrong as happened here. However, once thats done, its done. I don't care if Straddle accepts it or tells me to fuck off....it doesn't matter to me.

Now you're going to need someone else to vent your frustrations on, because I am done discussing this matter with you. Someone has to bury this damn horse and its going to be me.
JJN4Fun

Jan 17 @ 12:41AM  
I think every comment here has made some good points,(including the little guy that don't spel two wel, with the "S" on his chest and a hand wrapped around him, could be obsessive/compullsive behavior)....This is not the real world and freedom of comment will always be subject to approval by the queen cockroach and her band of cockroach luv. Yes, they have a double standard and thats too be expected by the people whose brains HAVE NOT been ravaged by the late stages of syphilis. We could start our own community per say and blog and wait for the queen cockroach to rear her diseased head. I commented on the queen's latest blog. Its waiting "Insects" approval....lol

jump9 - the man who made this comment, just deleted 2 comments that he didn't like from his blog: one from sundance64 and one from canuhelpme258. You see, it's okay for him to inject himself as rudely and nastily has he wants on other people's blogs (which are still there for everyone to see), but when someone say something he doesn't like in his blog (which happened to be pointing out that he had done this on one of her blogs), he deletes it. And he says I have double standards?
dulsinea

Jan 17 @ 12:35PM  
Well you know how I feel. If a person takes the time to reply to your blog....no matter what is said....the reply should not be removed.
jump9

Jan 18 @ 10:15AM  
szxe...yes I did delete them and more but I did not block them or anyone. I did it just to be a prick,troll,etc. I apologize for the name calling,it was unneccesary and uncalled for...guess I was feeling "pissy" at that particular moment in time. My thoughts/fantasy's don't revolve around sex,sex,sex, with inanimate objects..on and on and on....and the little guy with the "S" on his chest and the hand wrap...maybe a puppet..strangulation...cocksock...don't know for sure....compulsive/obsessive...just a guess...infatuation for sure...but amusing...freedom of speech as stated in the constitution will always be abused..the news media might as well email the terrorists with any strategy our military has in Iraq. Our government has opened a hornets nest and the hornets are winning...their reasoning behind all this I have no idea..they are the true haters..enough..What I have noticed here(hear) is so many women seem so angry,so quick to go defensive and then offensive...In the real world as well...wish we all could be like Bob and wifey,his trunks in the pool and big smiles on our faces. Wonder if stevens(DS' neighbor) got his wife to suck his cock? Baby sitter too?
dulsinea

Jan 28 @ 12:00PM  
Posted a reply to Canuhelpme's blog about the rights to be offended.....not in agreement with the blog, but not nasty either....and apparently he didn't approve it because its not there.

So, apparently, unless you agree with his post......its ignored.

BelAir789

Jan 28 @ 9:52PM  
just to be fair, I always delete 100% of the comments on my blogs.
dulsinea

Jan 29 @ 11:44AM  
Too funny, BelAir....

And like many men....at least you get the last word that way!!

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