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posted 11/10/2010 11:27:44 AM |
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  sugarnspice005

Oh yeah, this is a rant.

I was reading a blog on the other site where the blogger was bitching about having to work for less today than what they were paid 20 years ago. And one of the comments on the blog said something about "lowering ourselves now to get by". What? "lowering ourselves"?

That kind of ticked me off a little. Why? Because, these people who are bitching about being "university educated" and having to "get by" on minimum wage are sitting in a warm house, using a computer connected to the internet and complaining about "lowering" themselves while there are human beings out there who are living in fields, or on sidewalks, or under overpasses trying to stay warm right now. I'll just bet any one of those people would love to have a minimum wage job so they can get out of the cold.

I drive through town, and I see homeless people huddled by vents of buildings trying to keep warm. I see them huddled in corners of buildings trying to get away from the bite of the cold winds. Talking with my sister a while back, she said there was a man who is "living" in the field next to our parent's neighbor's house. I'll bet anything that man would love to have a minimum wage job so he can afford to be in a warm house also.

Times are hard......but don't sit there and bitch about a low wage job keeping a roof over your head. Be fucking happy you have a damn job to begin with! And who gives a rats ass about "university educated"??? You're working, you're in a warm home with food....unlike that poor soul out there in the elements who may also be "university educated" but lost everything when the company they worked for let them go and they ran out of money to keep their home.

I work hard for what I've got, and I totally appreciate the fact I have a job....and I take no pity on someone bitching about a lower wage when I see the suffering around me.

Ok...I think I'm done now.

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hog77297

Nov 10 @ 11:45AM  
Well Sugar I think you pretty much said it all. Some of the younger generation thinks they are better than the rest of us. I've done some shitty low paying jobs and was glad to have them.
I to feel for the homeless.
Wordsofwit

Nov 10 @ 11:52AM  
To me, it is kind of like an alleged date rape...how you feel about it depends on which end of the dick you are on.

Back when I was employment counsellor for the state, I had a lot of clients over 45 who, through no fault of their own, had been put out to pasture by their employer or career field. They wound up having to get by, by being a rent-a-cop, pizza delivery guy or some other menial dead end job.

Seeing the glass as being half full is one thing, but when it is damned near empty it is quite another.

As for street people, it has been my experience that most of those people are in those circumstances because of their own bad choices/actions and they wind up in situations that they created.
RJ53

Nov 10 @ 11:56AM  
Here in Fayetteville a lot of the homeless are vets from Viet Nam or one of the gulf wars. They served their country came back damaged and now people just want them out of sight so they do not have to think about it. They don't have jobs because they can no longer function in the workplace because they served their country. It really pisses me off to see the way people treat them. Some of us try to gather up blankets every year to hand out to these guys. I just wonder why people have such a problem with holding out a helping hand when they see someone down and out.

I have been that person with the degree working for low wages because there was nothing available in my career field. I did it because all the bitching in the world was not going to make my dream job appear out of thin air and I had a family to support. There is something to be said for having a roof over your head and food to eat even if it was beans and rice two days in a row. In my humble opinion some people just need to get over themselves and be thankful for what they do have instead of bitching about what they do not.
NightOfOld

Nov 10 @ 11:57AM  

I agree with you. And you put it very well.

I can remember when there was no such thing as minimum wage. And there were times I worked as a dish washer to get by. You do what you have to to survive. That is not lowering yourself.
RJ53

Nov 10 @ 12:01PM  
As for street people, it has been my experience that most of those people are in those circumstances because of their own bad choices/actions and they wind up in situations that they created.

From what I have seen on the streets here in Fayetteville, a military town, that statement is pure bullshit. Most of the homeless are vets with issues related to their service.

Recently with high unemployment I am also seeing women with children living on the streets because they lost their jobs, unemployment ran out and they lost their homes.
sugarnspice005

Nov 10 @ 12:01PM  
In my humble opinion some people just need to get over themselves and be thankful for what they do have instead of bitching about what they do not.

My point exactly! Thank you RJ.
somnium

Nov 10 @ 12:15PM  
I guess these days, millions are just a paycheck away from going under! I'm not without financial problems at the moment but, it could always be worse- like some stories I read, about some employees of Enron that watched their million dollar pensions drop to about a grand or so and were not allowed to dump out of their pensions as they lost value, yet management made millions!

Then there's the Madoff Ponzi scheme, where investors lost most if not all of their investments, homes, autos, families etc. So yeah, things can always be worse and those that even have jobs these days, are ahead of the game!

And these people are bitching about what they made 20 years ago? There's just no comparison between then and now!


lunanegra

Nov 10 @ 5:16PM  
As for street people, it has been my experience that most of those people are in those circumstances because of their own bad choices/actions and they wind up in situations that they created.

Not all the time Bruce...not all the time.

We've covered the vets, which ticks me off, because we allegedly live in the "Greatest country in the world" but when they come back home from fighting, the gov't gives them their asses to kiss. Its pitiful.

Also, lets mention kids who run away from abusive homes, or gay kids who get turned out because they are gay, something that can't be helped.

Someone like yourself lacks perspective because you've really never been there but this is something that I heard that really is a sobering thought: We are always one paycheck away from being on the streets. Given this economic climate, its really, really scary.

And what's really shitty, here in my town, theyre trying to pass an ordinance to make homelessness illegal. The fuck?
Wordsofwit

Nov 10 @ 6:42PM  
that statement is pure bullshit.

Someone like yourself lacks perspective because you've really never been there

I beg your pardon, but part of my profession for six years involved working with the homeless, vets in particular. So I speak from professional experience. Many are, sadly, martyrs without a cause. Many showed up at outreach gatherings for a meal and clothes, but declined to investigate the offerings of employment help or training programs to become employable.

For whatever the reason, the people I allude to did not want to put forth even a marginal effort to improve their life. Did they just give up? Hell, I don't know. I can only speak from what I've seen in the Dallas area, up close and personal. But in my experience, for every person who will work with you to try to improve their circumstances, there are ten who won't and don't give a damn.
B9CC1D

Nov 10 @ 7:53PM  
I think what's being overlooked here is that there was a shift following the 1970's for capitalist magnates to overcome the high salaries that Americans were earning. It was entirely true through that time that a single person could, with a solid job, support an entire family.

To expand profits and and control salaries at that time there was a combined effort of union-busting and a lot of exporting of labor overseas.

However in order to overcome the contrast change in supply and demand that caused we went off the gold standard completely and everything became credit oriented. Which has led us down the path to what problems we have today.

Currently there are arguments on both sides of the fence as to "what's next". A return to the gold standard? A revision of the credit system? Increased or decreased regulation? One way or the other there are three facts:

1) Whatever is decided upon, it's effects won't be known until more than a decade after implementation.
2) It's unlikely that ANYONE here will have a say as to what system is chosen.
3) That new system will change your life forever.

And because the voter turnout for last election averaged less than 20%, it seems that 80% of people neither know nor care about those 3 facts, and probably feel they have no influence over them.
PinkToeNails

Nov 10 @ 8:17PM  
I've been in the medical billing field for about 15 years and alot of those jobs have been sent overseas.... to India..... I'm having a hard time findind a job in my field here locally. I have taken a considerable cut in pay and though I'm not doing what I want to be doing and am good at!! .... I am proud to have a job! And I'm actually pretty good at it too!!

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