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  JOHN7AZ

The U.S.A. is the last super power (as a country) left to ever exist on the earth. At least for our world. Think about it. The only reason why our country is the super power that it is, is because of the vast resources discovered on this continent. From the buffalo that use to run the plains to the gold strikes to the .coms on the internet. All great empires such as Rome (ancient), Mongolia (Gengis Khan), whatever who they may be, became a super power of their time only because of the resources they'd possess. What other resource is left in this planet???? We've pretty much depleted everything and we've explored almost every square inch. So I as, Where do we as a world of people go from here? Or, do we just die off...

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samclaunts

Jul 14 @ 10:01PM  
grab what you can when you can
we all will be dead and forgotten in a couple of hundred years
so less get it all now
somnium

Jul 14 @ 11:29PM  
We have plenty of energy resources right in our own back yard! We have enough coal in our country to last for about 200/250 years for starters, that can be used in various forms for energy! The Germans developed a process to turn coal into aviation fuel in WWII!

We have natural gas, oil in various forms like shale oil being exploited, nuclear power- France gets 80% of their energy needs from nuclear power! Then there is nuclear fusion being developed (not to be confused with the nuclear fission plants we have now)! We have fuel cells (the same power units used in the Apollo missions in the late 60s- early 70s)- that use oxygen and hydrogen to produce power (the byproduct is water and heat- so it's renewable)- we'll never run out of those gases and fuel cells can use other chemicals to generate power! When I say power, I mean electrical energy!

Hydrogen itself can be used as a fuel- we just don't have the infrastructure in place for it, yet! Storage is somewhat of a problem but it can be compressed into a liquid or there are metal hydrides, that have an affinity for absorbing hydrogen, then released when the metal hydride is warmed up!

Once we get past using oil as a main source of energy, research will be going full blast in new technologies to better use what we have more efficiently and develop other sources of energy!

We have plenty of energy sources to tap in the future! We just need to get Unky Sam to get out of our business and let our people do what we do best- research and development!

The human race will be long gone before we ever run out of ways to generate power for what we use it for!


JOHN7AZ

Jul 15 @ 1:00AM  
Sure,I can see your point somnium. Very knowledgeable you are. But I'm referring to resourses in terms of what the next super power would need to position itself as dominant over the world. I'm thinking that not only fuel and energy would be needed, but even more so would be ore. The only vast resourse of ore that we have not tapped into would bein outer space. Mining on other planets and moons. The fuel developed here on earth would be used to initialize the space mining. Then we would harvest fuel without the need to ration it, in great abundences from other worlds. This time there would be no queen elizabeth from spain or lewis and clarks staing out louisiana purchases for france. No....the time for countries as super powers is going to die with America as the uttmost super power of a country. I believe the next super power wilol be held by corporations. The corporation that controls the extra terrestial mining and fuels will be the next super power. I can see this comming because of america, the top dog, is a capitalistic way of live, paving the road for private industries to conquer the universe. He who has the most money wins,
Wordsofwit

Jul 15 @ 1:05AM  
I am not going to spend a whole of time on this. Conceptually:
He who hold the cards (natural resources) has the potential advantage.
China, Brazil
He who has the skill to play the cards without a strong hand can win (innovation),
Japan, UK, India
He who has both can prevail (synergy).
USA, Germany, the former USSR (potentially).

I can debate this in great detail, I make my living analyzing it. But I don't choose to do so here on this site beyond what I submitted, respectfully.
JOHN7AZ

Jul 15 @ 4:34AM  
Thanks, Wordsofwit. This is no debate. Just wanted to hear other angles of what our future may look like
somnium

Jul 15 @ 9:45AM  
I'm referring to resourses in terms of what the next super power would need to position itself as dominant over the world.

I think science (research and development- technology) rules! It allows us to recycle resources that we have already used and to use resources more efficiently that we haven't excavated yet- not to mention developing new technologies to supplant the resources that we are depleting!

This is why I'm greatly dismayed that this and previous administrations, have/are putting science on the back burner, favoring deception to its citizens and the world, as a way of remaining dominant- not just our country but other developed countries are in the mix as well!

IMO, if a country lags behind in research and development, eventually it will be the bane of that country!

ma47

Jul 15 @ 12:31PM  
Could come down to producing FOOD........
JOHN7AZ

Jul 15 @ 12:58PM  
Science and technology are advancing at the rate a rolling snowball would grow larger, and that would be needed in order to mine space for ore. Science is not monopolized by any one country or government, so therefore, in the science department, no cuntry can be considered superior. Science can only work with research and developement. Research and developement can only work if funded. So who ever funds the scientists pretty much owns that certain technoloogy. That is why NASA (the biggest monthly bill of all time) is still running at whole costs. The government keeps it alive because the U.S. knows that the only way it can keep it's superiority and even get out of debt is to invest in that science exploration department in order to monopolize the mining of space. Still, NASA has to compete against privately owned research teams who are also looking to hold a monopoly in space mining. Kind of lke how building a railroad to california would put someone in a position of power (as it did). So although science is breaking ew barriors with new technology... I'm pretty sure the great race into space is the basis for all this, because he who owns space will be the richest mother fucker mankind will ever have bore witness to.
somnium

Jul 15 @ 2:03PM  
Science can only work with research and developement. Research and developement can only work if funded.

Therein lies the problem with the operative word being 'funded'! On May 25, 1961, JFK announced our country's ambition of landing astronauts on the Moon and returning them safely by the end of the decade! We did that within eight years (from scratch)- 66 years if you think of the Kitty Hawk flight of 120 feet, in a rickety aircraft, that barely made it off the ground!

What is the prognosis for going back to the Moon now- 10/15+ years... are you kidding me?? Not to mention that the Russians may be sending our own people to the space station to fill the gap between the Shuttle and new launch vehicles- that we should have been developing right after the beginning of the Shuttle program! But no, Congress (with a little help from a few very naive presidents I can think of) decided to cut back funding on our space program over several administrations! And this administration isn't helping any either!

I'm pretty sure the great race into space is the basis for all this, because he who owns space will be the richest mother fucker mankind will ever have bore witness to.

IMO, space activities is much to expensive for any one country to "own space!" What is needed for long term manned missions to Mars for instance, is cooperation among nations to accomplish that- as much as I hate to say it!

Must the nations take their 'superiority' over each other concept, into space too?? To what end will that bring to the population on this planet? One country owns the world so, it's do as we say, not as we do? Hell... we get that already, right here in our own country, from our own government!

JMO


lunanegra

Jul 15 @ 5:20PM  
Where do we as a world of people go from here?

Build technology so advanced that we travel to other universes, then we settle an earth-like planet, maybe terraform Mars..and then name it Doloresworld!
PinkToeNails

Jul 15 @ 5:27PM  
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

LMAO@ luna!!
JOHN7AZ

Jul 15 @ 6:10PM  
Doloresworld!

Yeah, I'd like that
But the point I'm trying to get accross is that "NO COUNTRY IS EVER GOING TO OWN SPACE!" How does the U.S. get by as it is in debt. Also, who is our country in debt to? America is a capitalistic society. We have shown the world that all the money that is to be made does not go directly to the king anymore. Americans put money in their own pockets. Some of these americans made their wealth off of the dot coms. Inventions of new electronic gadgets. Most of the money is "old" nmoney" aquired from the bootlegging days of prohibition. You have the Rockefellers made theirs off of standard oil. Then you got J.P.Morgan, Bill Gates, etc., etc. Then you have the heirs of these families with this shitload of money and what do you think they do with it? Well, the only way they can keep this money is to make sure that they will live in a capitalistic society. That means making sure our american government will continue to exist as the super power that it is. So I say... Obama does not run this country. All these politicians are mere puppets for the wealthy, faceless money lenders who will fund all these government and even private projects (investing). So, That is why I say, that no country will ever become the next super power. One of these faceless rich guys in the shadows are calling the shots. Don't argue with me folks. We americans know better than all the world that money buys you power. I'm pretty sure I'm the only guy that will not suck another man's dick for a million bucks. Earth is running out of resourses. That means that we would fall back into the dark ages. Not anytime too soon. But soon enough. We're breeding like cockroaches so I give it about 150 years before earth taps out under the weight of overpopulated humanity.\

Must the nations take their 'superiority' over each other concept, into space too??

Once again, countries no longer have this power. How many times have you seen some rich fuck get off of some crime he's pulled buy buying his way out? Have you seen that movie "Aeon Flux". It's where a group of scientists run the world because of the technology they developed.

But, for all you poor people that can't afford to buy their way into space real estate, (let alone a pack of cigarettes). You can rest assured knowing that the magnificent Dolores O'Riordan will save the earth

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