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posted 7/14/2010 8:24:00 PM |
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Some people will do just about anything for money. They will lie, cheat, and yes, they will even use the promise of friendship or love to further their own financial interests. Such was my experience two days ago

I received an email from a young woman here on Lian Brooks is this young woman’s name. Since I have used her name let me assure everyone that I can and will document everything that I say. Further, I would also like everyone to know that I am not making this post simply as a means of getting even. I hope to spare others the financial costs, and the emotional embarrassment that I have experienced at the hands of this predatory young woman. I admit that I should have listened to my gut instinct. Things between us were moving too far too fast, and I let her tricked me. Here’s how….

As previously mentioned, I received an email from Lian. The usual stuff. She liked what was in my profile and wanted to get to know me better. She asked me if I was set up to do online chat, and sent me her Yahoo Messenger address. That email appears below.

From: hotlian2
To: DougELove
Date: 07/12/2010 09:01 AM
Subject: hello..

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report spam Hi.. I am new here.. you got a ym addy cz i am new and online 4 you.. mine is hotlian2 (at) yah00 dot cum Help report abuse and spam. If this email appears suspicious please report it to our abuse department.

Once we made contact on Yahoo I was then directed to another website that in turn redirected me to, which unlike what Lian’s profile purports, is probably where Lian really works. Hey, I not making value judgments. I know a couple of call girls that are completely upfront and honest about what they do, and I completely trust and respect them.

It’s at this point that things start to get really interesting. You see, I needed to enter my credit card information. Lian however, told me that she could give me free credits, and my credit card wouldn’t be billed. I admit every alarm bell in my brain was screaming “Danger Will Robinson! Danger!” (You have to be old enough to remember Lost In Space to understand the significance of that line). I entered my credit card information, received no credits, and worst of all, Lian played like I wasn’t even there.

Am I a chump, or what…?

So after sever minutes I logged out of the site, and this morning I called my credit card company and sure enough I’m being billed. Further, since my Yahoo Messenger is set up to run automatically every time I turn on my computer, I noticed that Lian was online, so I thought I’d contact her to see what she would have to say. These two conversations appear below. (I was a little smarter this time I saved those conversations).

dougmanderbach: Lian, are you there?
hotlian2: yes
dougmanderbach: I'm a bit mad at you. They charged my credit card.
dougmanderbach: I think you should at least talk to me
hotlian2: it wont hun ;)
dougmanderbach: The charge has already gone through
hotlian2: how much ?
dougmanderbach: Initially the $4.99, but there is another $40.00 charge for the monthly service
hotlian2: its wont hun, since the you will follow my simple instruction ok
dougmanderbach: what? slow down and say that again. please
dougmanderbach: You work for, don't you?
hotlian2: do you want to see me again?
dougmanderbach: Not at the moment
dougmanderbach: Lian, let me try and explain some things to you. I'm trying to get to the bottom of this without causing you or any trouble, but if you won't talk to me than you leave me no other choice sweetie. I'm trying to be nice.
dougmanderbach: I was born yesterday, but I wasn't born this morning. Which means that after nearly 60 years of living I know a whole lot more about life and business than you do.
dougmanderbach: PLEASE TALK TO ME!
dougmanderbach: Lian, you have about 30 seconds to say something or I'm gone. I assure you that you will NOT like how this turns out
hotlian2: brb
dougmanderbach: Okay. Have it your way. Please do not contact me again. AND be aware that I am saving this conversation in which you have incriminated yourself. You're just a silly little girl that has begged up on more trouble than you know. Do you know that what you did on the internet is a federal crime?
dougmanderbach: Wise up Lian, there is a way out, but you have to take the line I'm offering you.
dougmanderbach: Okay. Bye!

When I said goodbye, Lian immediately came back on with the following.

hotlian2: brb
dougmanderbach: What the hell does that mean?
hotlian2: be right back to you
dougmanderbach: okay

After several minutes of waiting I dropped out of chat. I honestly don’t know what I was expecting, maybe it was simply that I was hoping that if she was going to f—k me, maybe she would at least have the decency to kiss me once or twice.

Am I a chump, or what…?

And that’s pretty much my story. Or is it…? You see, I don’t want to see anyone get burned, but even more important, I detest these kinds of behaviors when they’re done in the name of establishing friendships. Too be completely honest, I’m mad enough (mostly at myself), that I want to expose Lian for the fraud she is. I ware my heart and my opinions on my sleeve, that’s why when that asshole said what he did to Sunshine I got really vocal. People don’t have the right to step on the feelings and emotions of others simply to gratify their own interests or because they don’t like how their actions have come back to bite them in the butt. Which is exactly what happened in Sunshine’s case. My hat is off to you baby girl, you were a lot nicer than I would have ever been. I know what that is like from the other side of the coin. I weigh 155 pounds and I’m 5’10”, and it isn’t real nice when you’re trying to buy a pair of jeans and a sales person tells you that I ought to look in the “little boys department.” Needless to say I don’t shop at that store any more.

However, I would like to say that I understand better now why there are these tight knit groups of people on the dating sites, and that you have to earn everyone’s trust before they let you in. That’s a good thing. I helps to keep you safe.

Well the only thing that remains now is for me to report Lian to AdultMatchDoctor and to Cams. I know, some will perhaps think that’s a bit excessive, but my feeling is that if Lian wants to play games, than she shouldn’t get mad when she puts herself out there so far that someone decides to hold her responsible and accountable for her behavior. Besides, I’m old school, don’t mess with my family, my friends, or my money, because that’s a sure way to trouble.

Am I a chump, or what…?

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Jul 14 @ 8:31PM  
I'd say you fall into the first category. But then again many men fell for that routine back when there was just phone sex and the Internet hadn't even been invented yet.

Jul 14 @ 9:25PM  
Lesson number one....

When they can't even type English...and want to hook up on yahoo from the first initial email...99.9 times out of's a scam.

Live and learn.

Jul 14 @ 10:14PM  
I got a bridge I wish to sell you
next time think with your head the one on your shoulders

Jul 14 @ 11:08PM  
hopefully wiser. this isn't the only site it happens on tho. it may be a little more prevalent here as the site is free and they can be blocked under one name and be back in less than an hour under another. if there is a yahoo id in the first message, repot it, block it then report the profile for abuse. eventually it gets pulled.

Jul 15 @ 1:12AM  
Sorry, dude, you are sucker and a chump on this one. Live and learn. Do bear in mind that there are wonderful people on the Internet and this site. You will have to sift through a lot of broken glass to find the diamonds. But with a trained eye, it can be done, my friend.

Jul 15 @ 1:57AM  
First, I gotta say, I love the way Sugar Maths.. it's almost as bad as mine.

Secondly.. a real woman, one who is not asking you for credit card information is going to want to take longer to know you before she shows you anything.

Jul 15 @ 8:46AM  
I went to bed last night thinking to myself that maybe I ought to drop this internet socializing, it could be more of a headache than it's really worth....

Than I woke up this morning thinking to myself that people sure are being negative, don't they see that at least one of the things I'm trying to do here is to help keep someone else from being taken.... I mean, after all, publicizing this isn't real great for one's self or public image.... So much for image....

Since some of the comments I've received seem to be suggesting that maybe I only got what I was looking for --an idea that really disturbs me since it just ain't so, I decided to do a bit more personal reflection on the matter....

That's when I came to the conclusion that there is an unresolved question here that probably will make it very clear why I was so eager to go visual with this young lady --and why I have asked several of the people I have talk with on this site if we could talk via webcam. There are two reasons.

First, I no longer have complete use of my left hand thanks to a drug crazed kid and a .50 cal Desert Eagle. For several reasons I usually spend 16 to 20 hours a day in front of a computer and at the end of the day my arm aches pretty bad.

The second reason is because I can talk to someone on the internet all day long and never get much of an idea about who they REALLY are and what their motives might be. Oh the visual queues that we give off though, those rarely, if ever lie.

So I guess what all this comes down to is one's motives and I'm pretty sure I know what my motives are. At least for the present they have nothing to do with wanting to see some half dressed or naked woman, or even if whether I might want to climb between the sheets --and trust me, just so you don't think that I'm bullshitting anyone, there are several woman on this site who for a variety of reasons make that idea seem very appealing indeed.

You see, for me, if all I wanted to do was get laid, I wouldn't even be hear. I'd be on Ashley Madison. Oh, incidentally, here's motive for you. Joey Greko, the guy that is supposedly so down on cheaters and just seems to love catching them in the act. One of his biggest sponsors is Ashley Madison. A site exclusively dedicated to cheating. Is it just me, or does anyone else see the hypocrisy in this.

As I've said before I ware my heart and my opinions on my sleeve, so to be very candid about it, I think I'm seeing a little bit of hypocrisy here too. Now I won't call anyone out (at least not publicly), but please, I resent the idea by some, that they can project and transfer their motives onto me. Suffice it to say, if this doesn't exactly endear me to certain people, than I AM 100% COOL WITH THAT!

So lets see where everyone's thinking really lies. Should I go or should I stay. I'm looking for romance, and I'm just practical enough to know that I might have to endure a little bit of drama to find it.... But putting up with drama doesn't mean that I will take it lying down. I absolutely refuse to let anyone spoon feed me bullshit and try to pass it off as steak and eggs. I know what steak and eggs tastes like.

Anyone want some head...? Ladies only please!

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