KitKat25
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Jun 13 @ 2:38PM
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7. If you comment on a blog…do not alienate the author with derogatory comments. Your comment is a reflection of you. Negative comments can decrease a blog’s success and possibly detour other people from commenting. When commenting on a blog…you should be adding to the discussion…not bashing the author or other commenter’s. 
8. Prior to posting…check your links. There is nothing more irritating than a link that doesn’t work. Enough said. 
9. If someone comments on your blog…make time for one of their blogs. It’s called common courtesy boys and girls. If you cannot identify with their most current blog (Like some of Straddle’s blogs)…dig through their archives and find one you can leave a short comment on. I feel strongly about this point…especially if the person is commenting regularly on your blogs. I feel Pervia is a community…and showing your support for other bloggers is very important to that community. I’m happy to say there are a few souls in Pervia who are simply awesome at this…and make the rest of us (Like me) look really bad. 
10. If someone leaves a negative comment on your blog…do not feel obligated to leave it in your comment section. A negative comment can change the dynamics of the other valuable comments. If you don’t like a comment…you can delete it…it’s that simple. After all…it’s your blog. 
However…there’s a big caveat. Don’t mistakenly think that you can actually control the conversation. A blog comment which gets deleted on your blog may turn up somewhere else in a more negative light. I like to call these “blog spin-offs”. Sometimes you have to make the call as to whether you need to defend your position on your own blog…or extinguish the flames elsewhere (Like a private email).
11. Don't make your blog an excuse to make a personal attack on someone. Remember the old saying "If you can’t say something nice…don’t say anything at all." If you’re troubled by something and would like to receive feedback on a particular situation…keep the persons involved anonymous. Remember…if you don’t want to be judged…then don’t judge others. 
In other words…don’t tear someone down. If you can’t build them up…do something of which YOU can be proud of later down the road.
12. If you’re emotionally riled by a blogger or a commenter…pause before you hit post. You might regret what you wrote…and you might loose a friend.
There will always be differing opinions to yours. Remember to always respect other’s views and opinions. If you want to share your own…then do so in a mature debate. But bear in mind that you don’t need to change that person’s viewpoint.
Sometime agreeing to disagree is the way to go. Remember…we can disagree…but we don’t have to be disagreeable.
13. If you don’t like a blog…move on. If you don’t share a blogger’s opinions…don’t make it your mission in life to spam their blog with your personal attacks. After all…there are so many other blogs to choose from in Pervia…so move on.
If this is too many items to remember…simply remember the 3Rs…
- Be Responsible.
- Respect the person behind the other keyboard.
- Relax…open your mind…and enjoy your blogging experience. 
1) So Pervia…Do you try and practice blogging etiquette? 
2) If a book was being written on blogging etiquette…what would you like to see included in that book?
3) Do you agree or disagree with any of the items on my list?
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Wordsofwit
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Jun 13 @ 2:45PM
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Ever post a blog…or comment on a blog…and get in trouble for your words?
It is been quite a while ago since I've done that. It hasn't happened in the last ten hours.
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Wordsofwit
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Jun 13 @ 3:31PM
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I am going to give you a kudo for a very well written blog that should spark participation. There are a lot of good points IMO, especially the first five.
I am just bopping in and out as I have work to do today. Consequently, I will only comment briefly, in general, and only succinctly on one of your three questions.
1) So Pervia…Do you try and practice blogging etiquette?
I do in some ways and actually have made some changes in that area. For example, if I find a joke funny and I haven't heard it before, it gets a kudo. If it is kind of funny or I haven't heard it in a long time, it gets a comment like, "That is a classic that I haven't heard for years." or "That's pretty good, I have never heard it before." If I don't comment, the lack of a comment indicates it is not very funny, a rerun, stale, or combination of the three.
I also religiously cite other blogs with a link to them that may be an inspiration for a post of mine or even serve as a related companion piece on the same topic.
Scatter shooting on a couple of other things:
If you post a blog presented as fact, verify it and submit links to sources, especially if it flew into your email inbox. We all had to do this in term papers in junior high, high school, and college. It shouldn't be any different in this environment and it doesn't take much time.
The "A" in AMD stands for "adult". I see no need to treat a post by an AMD friend like a six-year old's art work brought home from school to be placed under a magnet on the refrigerator. To me, the blog or comment stands on its own merits regardless of who wrote it. To do otherwise strikes me as being polite and encouraging while simultaneously being superficial and insincere.
Don't be defensive and take things personally if it is not what you want to hear. People can disagree with ideas, have a different perspective, or challenge your POV. Avoid overreaction to people not kissing your ass by not displaying a desire to kick theirs. Anger management issues are attributes that people, in general, don't find attractive.
There is one other area I admit to falling short in, and many others do also. Sometimes a response is best taken to private email and not posted publicly as a blog comment.
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theSkwirl
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Jun 13 @ 4:10PM
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possibly detour other people from commenting Did you mean to route around the blog or did you mean deter which is cause them not to?
1) So Pervia…Do you try and practice blogging etiquette? Umm. No, not as such. Not really. I just treat other people the way that I want to be treated, unless of course, I'm in a Troll baiting mood.
2) If a book was being written on blogging etiquette…what would you like to see included in that book? A link to a thesaurus/dictionary for those who use big words where they do not belong. The idea of common courtesy and a modicum of respect for the creator of a blog should be expounded upon.
3) Do you agree or disagree with any of the items on my list? Yup, I agree.. and if you are going to use creative spelling, it's important first to know the rules before you break them. A short course on grammar might be nice in the book.
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theSkwirl
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Jun 13 @ 4:12PM
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I left you a cookie.
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RJ53
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Jun 13 @ 5:36PM
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I usually just say what is on my mind. For the most part I try to be polite about it unless that person is getting on my last nerve then all bets are off. I seem to piss people off even when I am being nice about things. But that is a whole other story. Good blog. A greenie for you.
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aftershox
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Jun 13 @ 6:37PM
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Leaving you a green kudo for a very well written blog.
1) So Pervia…Do you try and practice blogging etiquette?
Probably not in the truest sense. I blog when inspired, and acknowledge comments sporadically, and only if I see an inspiring comment.
2) If a book was being written on blogging etiquette…what would you like to see included in that book?
A book. Why would I want a book???? Huh? Who would I consider to be an authority on blogging etiquette? Not all social sites call this kind of interaction "blogging". There are walls that get scribbled on, threads, topics, groups, yada yada. It is all basically the same thing.
The quality of stuff posted varies too. The quality of participants and the ratio of leaders, authors, lurkers and trolls varies as well.
The folks who should the book are illiterate or can't be bothered to read anyway.
3) Do you agree or disagree with any of the items on my list?
It is a good list. But it is YOUR list. It reflects the thoughtful and thought provoking individual that you are.
So I may adopt some of the concepts and agree with most of the value statements you make. But I don't see it as a definitive set of rules. And definitely NOT as set of rules to be enforced by blog nazis which are rumored to exist.
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StraddleMyNose
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Jun 13 @ 6:42PM
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This a very very well written, thoughtout blog.
1) So Pervia…Do you try and practice blogging etiquette? For the most part, I do.
2) If a book was being written on blogging etiquette…what would you like to see included in that book? I think you covered just about everything in your blog with this.
3) Do you agree or disagree with any of the items on my list?I agree with you!
Kudo sent your way! 
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onehornytoad69
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Jun 13 @ 7:09PM
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Greenie up front!!!
But to be Honest...(as I always am!)
I stopped posting blogs...and commenting for the most part because everyone here is on the "Rag"...99.9 % of the time!!! 
And You wanna have rules.... EH? 
I Love you guys...But Its not worth the Pains!!! I Really got Tired of Covering my Ass!!!
I'm a Drama Free Guy....and that's in Real life or On-Line!!! I have 0% Tolerance for all that!
My 2 cents!!!
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Wordsofwit
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Jun 13 @ 7:49PM
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And You wanna have rules.
I see nothing in her post indicating her saying there needed to be rules. I hear all of this ranting from people screaming about blog nazis. Usually, those railing are just reacting to people pointing out facts running counter to their posts, nothing more. Much of her post, in my interpretation, seems to be "play nice" and try to write with relative discipline. The under tow is to make sure you know what you are talking about if it involves factual in formation.
There are too many insecure people trapped by their insecurities that overreact to others when their posts (blogs or comments) are countered or not well received by others. Sometimes it is not the person's point or perspective that is the problem, but rather how it is conveyed.
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sugarnspice005
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Jun 13 @ 7:52PM
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Do I practice blog etiquette? 
Yep, I sure do. That's my story and I'm sticking to it! 
Most of my blogs are what is on my mind at the time I post them. As for negative comments...that would depend on the content. I mean, if someone out of the blue comes on one of my blogs to verbally attack someone who has commented, I will delete the comment. But if someone is disagreeing, I'll leave the comment as long as it doesn't cross into being nasty.
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somnium
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Jun 13 @ 9:46PM
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1) So Pervia…Do you try and practice blogging etiquette?
I think I have in most blogs I've written! I try to compose my blogs that I think will be of interest to most people! I like to include links to an article, video or an overwhelming set of facts that I have researched via several websites (that's rare though- I prefer giving links).
And as most of you know, I give a disclaimer (regarding politics and politicians) at the beginning of a blog of mine on 'issues' having to do with what I think is important for our country! To do otherwise, invites political 'sharp shooters' to turn my blog or comment into a political issue, rather than discussing an issue like adults! They're out there- they're like frogs on steroids ready to 'jump' any tidbit they can to use (in their mind) against the opposition- at other people's expense, I might add!
2) If a book was being written on blogging etiquette…what would you like to see included in that book?
I'd say you have pretty much covered the scope of "netiquette'! Can't think of anything else!
3) Do you agree or disagree with any of the items on my list?
I agree and to prove it- have a kudo on me!
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RevDocLove
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Jun 14 @ 8:07AM
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Most excellent blog Miss Kat
Very well written and thought out 
You get a little green thingy from me too
BTW..On proof reading..You spelled 'lose'..'loose'
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soft_touch938
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Jun 14 @ 11:54AM
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Ok kat...there's several things I disagree with so here's a blog within a blog cause I can't keep it short.
#3...Most people try to write a blog minus the mistakes but often mistakes are made. I tried that firefox to correct them but it screwed with Zelda so I uninstalled it. I only installed it because of the bitching HERE. To me, just write the damn blog and enjoy writing it. Do the best ya can. I use a dictionary but sometimes I just don't have time to fuck with it. To me, blogging isn't a thesis to be graded by the general population but apparently a lot of people think so. My standard personal rule....don't like it? Don't read it.
#4 I use to be anal about answering every comment I got personally. Sometimes that is being unrealistic...it is time consuming when all they have to do is check back on that blog to see my reply to what they wrote. When time allows I will answer comments personally. When it doesn't....I don't and screw etiquette...that's sometimes just a word that provides a license for people to bitch and whine. JMHO
#6 I'm guilty of leaving a brief comment like the one used as an example. So sue me. I'm in a hurry. I liked the blog but to expound on that liking gets too involved or I just don't really know what I have to say so I just let them know I read it and liked it. I often get those kind of comments and I don't mind them at all...and those who do need to get a life. Again..JMHO
#9 Sorry...nah. If I comment on your blog it's because I wanted to and I sure don't expect you to "return the favor". It has nothing to do with etiquette and shouldn't. Blogging is a freedom of expression that shouldn't be bogged down with obligations of "if you comment on mine then I have to comment on yours:. I leave comments because I want to, not because I feel I have to. And you know what? I know when someone is leaving a perfunctory comment just following this so-called etiquette thingy...it means little me because it doesn't come from the heart, it's just an obligatory remark.
And so....
Blogging is a personal thing...it's journaling one's thoughts. If I write a book then the publisher comes in and tells me I have to revamp the whole thing and I can't spell words like wanna, coulda, yanno...and so forth or I need to change my subject/opinion/attitude/structure ....well fuck it then!! Then it isn't ME anymore but just a watered down version of what someone else wants.
Nah....people just need to use common sense and common courtesy and if that isn't something they come by naturally you'll never teach it to them. That's why we have the jerks we have from time to time. As for etiquette? It's makes a good cover for just downright old fashioned bitching.
Well....you asked.....
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Wordsofwit
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Jun 14 @ 12:52PM
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I agree with everything ^^^she^^^ says with one exception.
To me, just write the damn blog and enjoy writing it. Do the best ya can.
That is the exception and it is two fold. First, I agree with her general statement. But Do the best ya can to me means to do it offline if I am going put any effort into writing it, then I copy/paste it in. That way I have the full benefit of spell and grammar check.
Not only that, but I have proceeded to write a long post directly in here only to lose my connection, the browser quit out, or AMD glitches, resulting in losing my work. Live and learn. At least in Word I can save my work as I go and not get frustration followed by a string of obscenities when Murphy's law plays in
If you don't have browser with spell check then, like she says, do your best, especially on short comments. Mine spell checks and I see the red squiggly line to tip me off. But as more than one person has noted and laughed about (including me), where I, and many others, get tripped up is putting in the wrong word (their/there/they're) or leaving a word out of the sentence.
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1bunny629
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Jun 14 @ 1:33PM
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This is a very interesting blog. I needed to be reminded and this helped. Thanks for sharing kudo to you for going to great lengths to help us all!
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soft_touch938
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Jun 14 @ 1:39PM
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I don't have spell check anymore with my new Zelda without going to great lengths and when I write for the newspaper I go to great lengths. But just to blog??? I use my dictionary when it comes to words I can't spell or I have a brain fart and forget how to spell them. And you know what? Sometimes I just wing it when I'm pressed for time...so sue me.
I blog for enjoyment...mine. I'm not blogging to entertain you or elicit your praises. Why do you think valentine blogs so much? He's blogging for himself and for his own entertainment and if no one understands it or comments it doesn't stop him...he just enjoys what he's doing. That's how it should be peeps!! Do your own thing and enjoy it and quit the frikkin' ettiquette thingy that's nothing more than someone's own personal preferences to try to shove off on the next guy.
I don't think people for the most part "get it"...I mean true blogging. It is MY journal that I choose to share with you....and it's a take it or leave it kind of thingy. Don't grade it or criticize how it's written. You're welcome to discuss the subject matter and offer your own thoughts 'n opinions but leave the rest of it alone. If it's not written to your specifications or standards then...don't read it.
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KitKat25
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Jun 14 @ 4:42PM
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Before I jump into my comment…I wanted to thank OHT, Softie and WoW for stepping forward with their comments because this is what blogging is all about…different opinions…and sharing those different opinions in a mature debate.
I will address OHT’s comment first. Even though I wrote you a private email…I want to expand on a particular point.
The last time I checked…gals are the only ones who can be on the “Rag” and adding the laughing emoticons does nothing to soften the blow. Why? Because you added the “head banging” emoticons as well. I touched on this point at the beginning of this blog. Using emoticons out of context does not make it okay to make a negative statement.
Let me explain…the guys in the blogs range from the 20’s all the way up to the 70’s…yet the ages most represented seem to be the guys in their 40’s,50’s & 60’s. When one of you guys makes a rant-like statement in your blog…I could ask you how your “mid-life crisis” is going…but I don’t. Why? It would be rude IMO.
Just so you know…I would love to still have the ability to be on the rag. Why? Because I wanted to have 2 kids…and I was only able to have 1 because of having to undergo and emergency hysterectomy when I was younger. Did you know this? Of course you didn’t. But regardless of if you knew this fact or not…your remark still didn’t sit well with me.
If I expect my preschool kids to be polite and take responsibility when they hurt a friend’s feelings at school…of course I would expect more out of an adult on a blogging site. Just because you’re on a computer and talking with people thousands of miles away…you should still consider how your words will impact another person…and be polite. Oh...and for the record…I wasn’t being a drama queen when I wrote this blog…but your personal reaction to it was full of a lot of drama. This is my .02…and JMHO.
In regards to Softie’s comments…I want to preface my comment by stating these are my personal set of guidelines…and I posted this blog online because I thought others could possibly benefit from it…or add to it. I never said let’s write these rules in stone and place them beside our computers so we can follow them to the letter each and everytime we blog. Please refer to the text below.
What if I was writing a book about this topic? What etiquette should I include…and what should I leave out? With this in mind…I compiled the following list (with lots of help from a really cool website called “Blogging Without A Blog”) and I found it to be consistent within various blogging communities.
#3. I feel you should try your best in this area. Sorry. I stick by my original point. I too use a dictionary…as well as MS Word. I also do a very thorough proof-reading before I finally post my blog online. But even after all of this…I have still had spelling errors slip through…but at least I took steps to not have a lot of errors. It also benefits your readers since it’s much easier to read a blog that has been spell-checked. This is JMHO.
#4. Please refer to the text below.
A short thank you within a private email…or at the end of the comment section of the blog is sufficient…as comment sections often end up being the “meat” of a lot of blogs. Note: I personally need to improve my game on this step as I’ve become quite lax during the past couple of months.
Since you usually thank people at the end of your blogs…or write a few private emails to different commenter’s…I have no idea why this point hit a nerve with you…because you’re already doing it. I personally think I need improvement in this area…and I stated that fact in this blog.
#6. First of all…the tone of this comment was uncalled for and not respectful at all. This blog was not directed at you personally. So for you to take it like that really baffles me. I too leave short comments on certain blogs…but I was talking as a whole. My short comments are usually left on the copy and paste jokes. I’ve also been known to leave a short comment if I’m one of the last commenter’s and my point was already stated by another person. On the rare occasion…like when I’m reading one of your chapter stories…I will leave a short comment to let you know I checked in and was reading your story. Lastly…this is my opinion…and was not directed at anyone in particular…especially you Softie.
Continued in the next comment...
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KitKat25
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Jun 14 @ 4:45PM
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#9. I view Pervia as a blogging community. Yeah…I know…it’s a sex site…but it’s still a community. Again this is my opinion…but I feel you should support the community you’re a part of…it’s that simple. If I compare the amount of blogs you write in one week to the amount of blogs I write in one week…there is no comparison. I usually average 2 blogs a week…give or take a blog. I read most of your blogs...and comment on a handful because I usually read your blogs late at night Softie. I usually don’t have time for your blogs during the day…as I never know if I going to leave a comment or not….and I don’t want to be rushed with my comment.
Am I suggesting that you need to comment on every blog that everyone in Pervia writes? Absolutely not. But sharing your support and participating in that community is important to all of us…or we wouldn’t be here blogging. Sorry…but the person who tells me they don’t care if anyone reads their blogs or leaves comments is full of beans. If that were true...why do you allow people to comment in the first place? If this was really true...we would be blogging on our personal computers at home. It’s called being supportive…not being fake.
If I don’t feel something from one of your blogs…I don’t comment…it’s that simple. But you write a lot of blogs and stories…and I do support you as a blogger. Why? Because I like you and you’re a part of the Pervia family…so yes…I would love for you to drop by one of my blogs occasionally and leave a comment. Do I expect you to comment on every one of them? Not at all...and I don’t feel I’m alone with this point…but again…this point was not directed at you.
I’m not asking you to revamp your blogging style…so don’t do that to me. I blog because I like the community and camaraderie. You blog because you want to journal your thoughts. Your way isn’t better than my way…just different…so we will have to agree to disagree. JMO
As for this statement…
As for etiquette? It's makes a good cover for just downright old fashioned bitching.
I disagree completely. I see plenty of people in Pervia writing rant blogs to bitch about this and that and this was way before I even posted this blog. So Pervia didn’t need a guideline to bitching…some of the peeps were already bitching quite well before I stopped in and started hanging my hat at the door. This is another reason why I posted this blog. I wanted to make some of us step back and think about blogging from a different perspective…and see the way it can affect other people differently from how we intended.
After all…words can have a very powerful affect on people…and we should use our words wisely. JMHO.
Now...to address this comment...
I blog for enjoyment...mine. I'm not blogging to entertain you or elicit your praises. Why do you think valentine blogs so much? He's blogging for himself and for his own entertainment and if no one understands it or comments it doesn't stop him...he just enjoys what he's doing. That's how it should be peeps!! Do your own thing and enjoy it and quit the frikkin' ettiquette thingy that's nothing more than someone's own personal preferences to try to shove off on the next guy.
I think this second comment is going a bit too far Softie…because I’ve never come onto one of your blogs and personally attacked you. And this is exactly what you’re doing to me. I’ve already stated why I blog…so it doesn’t need to be stated again. I’m definitely not trying to shove my beliefs onto someone else…I was sharing…which is a part of blogging.
I’m thinking that perhaps you skipped part of my blog…because I said if you didn't have anything nice to say…which you didn’t in either of your comments…you should move on. I did not ask people to roast or rant in my comment section…and that’s exactly what you’re doing now. Small portions of these comments should have been discussed in a private email between us…as I don’t believe respect and courtesy needs to go out the window when commenting on a person’s blog.
So right now...I’m telling you to move on…you’ve commented enough…the rest of your comments will be deleted…unless you can be civil and respectful with them. If this causes you to do your own spin-off blog…so that you can continue to bash this blog...then sobeit.
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soft_touch938
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Jun 14 @ 5:19PM
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The mistake I made was not explaining when I used the word "you"....I didn't mean you personally.
Could I have had less attitude? Sure. It seems I need to reproduce my public face here in Pervia.
My apologies. I bow out...n/p
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StraddleMyNose
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Jun 15 @ 3:59PM
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if someone out of the blue comes on one of my blogs to verbally attack someone who has commented, I will delete the comment. But if someone is disagreeing, I'll leave the comment as long as it doesn't cross into being nasty. I agree, I'm the same way...
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aftershox
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Jun 16 @ 6:51AM
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KitKat
Sorry. I think you stepped over the line w Softie. Her tone, her comments, her attitude is just fine. Her right and everyone else right to journal, to blog here because it intrinsically pleases them is right on the money. We are not here to entertain others/
You pointing out that "she has gone too far" in her comments i just pure horse shit. plain and simple.
This blog went from "here are some thoughts" to an "I am right/you are wrong blog". You jumping on OHT for not knowing you are sensitive about the phrase "on the rag" is utter self-indulgent political correctness gone wrong.
Can I take back my greenie?
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aftershox
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Jun 16 @ 6:53AM
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I detest rudeness and hypocrisy of any kind. I especially detest it when it is done while putting on righteous airs of being more polite than other ppl.
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sugarnspice005
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Jun 16 @ 11:55AM
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#3...Most people try to write a blog minus the mistakes but often mistakes are made. I tried that firefox to correct them but it screwed with Zelda so I uninstalled it.
I only use firefox, but sometimes, that isn't always fool proof. When I get frustrated enough...I'll just open another window, type in the word in the google search bar..and it usually comes back with a "didn't you mean........?" and viola! The word I'm hung up on is spelled correctly. 
*Side note here...we're not all perfect...so I don't let myself get hung up on perfect grammar and spelling. *
If I'm writing something that someone else has written, I will acknowledge the original author for the simple fact that it's their work, not mine, and I will give credit where credit is due.
Sometimes I'll blog about an event and just post..and totally forget to provide a link.  And if it's pointed out...I'll fix it and thank the person who pointed it. I can take constructive "criticism"...You don't know unless it's pointed out.
Rudeness..if I feel someone has been rude, I'll say so to them privately in an email, I will not confront them on the blog. Why? Because it seems to then create a "take sides" atmosphere when it shouldn't.
Blogs are supposed to be ones thoughts, ideas, etc...They don't have to be perfect, they should follow the guidelines that AMD has posted, and they shouldn't be turned into a war zone. JMHO.
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StraddleMyNose
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Jun 16 @ 3:08PM
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Aftershox, I'm going to have to totally disagree with your accessment on Kat's comment back to Softy. I thought Kat was very much in the right, and handled herself very well, and was very direct and to the point with a few people on here who she needed to be with that way.
That's okay, Kat, I'll give you a kudo for job well done!
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chuck111
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Jun 18 @ 1:19PM
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great blog.you are so good.i still have alot to learn
chuck
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