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posted 5/25/2010 10:41:20 AM |
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  sugarnspice005

I was reading a blog on the vanilla site where the poster is saying we shouldn't be blaming BP for the oil leak. This poster wants to place the blame on the government. Wait...let me rephrase that...the poster wants to blame "business Democrats".

When one sits back and looks at ALL the oil rigs in the Gulf, and stops and thinks....how many rigs have had leaks of this magnitude? How many of those rigs have caused a disaster of this magnitude? I'm not making light of this because it is devastating. And each day that goes by and that oil is still spilling out...is another day that is ruining the ecosystem of the coast lines. I don't have any statistics..but, how long did it take to clean up after the Exxon Valdez? And I'm hearing that this is even worse than that.

As I commented in the other blog...if all the energy being used to point fingers and blame was applied to fixing this leak...it most likely could have been plugged a long time ago. (btw..that is supposed to be sarcasm....REALLY need a sarcasm font! )

I'll say it now...BP dropped the ball on their own rig. I've heard reports about some inspector blowing the whistle saying when safety inspections were done, that it wasn't as thorough as it should have been....again...I don't have direct access to what they know...I only know what I see or hear on the news.

It's a damned if you do, damned if you don't thing. What do I mean? Well, if the government steps in to put in more regulation...then some will start screaming "too big of government", yet, the government does nothing, then it's "they aren't doing enough". So....wtf? Like I said, damned if they do, damned if they don't. Can't please all. So, while everyone is pointing the blame....oil is pouring into the Gulf at an alarming rate...Anyone see the video of the fish jumping out of the water trying to get whatever oxygen they can? That was pretty sad to see....these creatures cannot breathe.

I don't know what these inspectors are looking for when inspecting rigs for safety and such...but I do know because someone missed something somewhere that 11 lives were lost, and now there is an environmental disaster that is bigger than the Exxon Valdez disaster and all people seem to want to do is use this for more political posturing.

So....who's to blame?

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Lisa46

May 25 @ 11:48AM  
As far as I'm concerned BP is. Its their rig, their responsiblility If they want to continue doing this then they need to be prepared for any emergancy
RJ53

May 25 @ 12:04PM  
Well one of the people to blame is Haliburton (yes that Haliburton) who was doing work on the rig as their work failed,, BP because they own the rig and Deepwater Horizion because they were contracted to operate the rig. They are all to blame. This is not the first time there has been this kind of disaster from off offshore drilling for oil. Some years ago there was a similar disaster in the ocean off the coast of California. Problem is everyone wants the oil but when something like this happens the cost of the disaster is more than the oil is worth. Scientists are saying that this oil spill might cover the gulf coast and a good ways up the East Coast before it is over with because of the currents. I know if that happens it is going to put a lot of people out of work who work in the tourist and fishing industry. I personally think these three companies should be responsible for paying their unemployment.Someone needs to hit these companies where they understand, in the pocketbook.
Because if all they get is a slap on the hand there is no real incentive to do better.
RJ53

May 25 @ 12:22PM  
LIVE FEED FROM BP GULF OIL LEAK

For those who might not have seen this.
surv6969

May 25 @ 1:01PM  
Lets say BP leases a Chevy Camero for an employee. While driving a tire blows and the employee runs over a kid on a bike and kills them.

Whose fault is it?
Chevy because they made the Camero? Depends if it was something they did wrong at the factory
BP because they leased the Camero? No but will pay out the ass
The employee because they were driving the Camero? Maybe
The manufacture of the brakes because it failed? Depends on if it was a manufacture defect
The Government because they didn't regulate enough? Hell no


Lets say BP leases a Chevy Camero for an employee. After driving the Camero for 3 years and 90,000 miles and never having new tires put on the Camero one blows out and they run over a kid on a bike and kills them.

Now Whose fault is it?
Chevy because they made the Camero? No
BP because they leased the Camero? No but will pay out the ass
The employee because they were driving the Camero? Yes
The manufacture of the tires because one failed? No
The Government because they didn't regulate enough? Hell no

OK now lets do the oil spill
A company builds and owns the oil rig, they lease it to BP who in turns hires another company to run and maintain the oil rig. (This is what I heard in the media)

Who is at fault for the rig blowing up and causing this mess?
The owner of the oil rig? Possibly. Why wouldn't you make sure something you own is not being kept up?
BP because they are the lease holder? Possibly. Why wouldn't you make sure something you are leasing is not being kept up?
The company you hired to run and maintain the oil rig? YES
The manufacture of the parts that failed? Mostlikely not
Who in every enterview and report I have seen has taken responsibility for the oil spill and has said they will spend what it takes to make it right? BP
casuallylooking

May 25 @ 2:43PM  
Regardless of who is to blame this will never be completely cleaned up. And
the lives lost can never be replaced.
It is a sad and tragic incident that should have never happened and could have been prevented.I don't call it an accident because although accidents are sometimes caused by stupidity they are often unavoidable. This could and should have been avoided.

However BP is stepping up and trying to pay for damage done and clean up... While all are pointing fingers someone IS saying although money can't really fix it all, WE will pay for what money can fix.

The owner of the oil rig? Possibly. Why wouldn't you make sure something you own is not being kept up?
BP because they are the lease holder? Possibly. Why wouldn't you make sure something you are leasing is not being kept up?
The company you hired to run and maintain the oil rig? YES
Agreed, but I feel the actual owner is the least responsible. they trusted the leasor to take care of their property and the same with the subleasor.
RJ53

May 25 @ 2:51PM  
I think this is just the beginning of what is going to be a disaster of epic proportions
RJ53

May 25 @ 2:55PM  
Agreed, but I feel the actual owner is the least responsible. they trusted the leasor to take care of their property and the same with the subleasor.

If hire a contractor to do a job and they create a disaster you are the one responsible for the disaster and then it is up to you to go after the contractor. They are all to blame, perhaps some more than others, but the point is while they are pointing fingers at each other the gulf coast and possibly part of the eastern seaboard may very well be ruined.
sugarnspice005

May 25 @ 3:39PM  
Wow....amazing. This can actually be discussed over here while over on the vanilla site it's turned into WorldWarIForgetHowFarTheyHaveGottenNow.


I guess now I know why the moderators pay more attention over there...it's gets..to borrow PTN's phrase "IN-FUCKING-SANE" over there!
Wordsofwit

May 25 @ 3:51PM  
My old man had a saying when there was finger pointing and half truths between my brother and I, "I'll get you both, that way I am sure I got the right one!!"
Wordsofwit

May 25 @ 3:55PM  
I guess now I know why the moderators pay more attention over there...it's gets..to borrow PTN's phrase "IN-FUCKING-SANE" over there!

The vanilla site is so overloaded with right wing extremists that it make Rush Limbaugh seem moderate. That is why I blew it off. Too many weirdoa and crackpots for me!!
KitKat25

May 25 @ 9:13PM  
Well one of the people to blame is Haliburton (yes that Haliburton) who was doing work on the rig as their work failed,, BP because they own the rig and Deepwater Horizion because they were contracted to operate the rig. They are all to blame.

I pretty much agree with RJ.
StraddleMyNose

May 25 @ 11:28PM  
I blame all three.... BP, the contractor's, and the Obama administration. Obama hasn't done crap to try to fix this mess.

Funny how liberals blamed Bush for Katrina a few years ago when it was actually mother nature, and the lack of response from local and state authorities down there.

Why the liberals aren't blaming Obama along with BP and the contractor's for the lack of response on this crisis boggles the mind.

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