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Should Teachers Have To Speak PERFECT English??

posted 5/24/2010 10:08:40 AM |
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  Sunshine79

I was just watching my local news Fox 35. They were taking a live poll refering to this question: Should school teachers have to speak perfect English in order to teach??

Majority of responses were all for this. The news stated that in a few weeks ahead they were going to send people into classrooms to sit in and listen. They would then make a determination at to whether or not they spoke perfect English and from there would either be able to stay or be let go.

The news also stated that this had nothing to do with the new Arizona immigration stuff that was going on. With that said, my 1st assumption
was teacher who were Spanish and didn't have perfect English. And then
I started thinking back on my teachers. What about an old German or Russian.
Understandable, but maybe not perfect, right??

Is this a fair thing to do to teachers? Some who may have been teaching for years?

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RJ53

May 24 @ 11:11AM  
I would think that it should depend on what they are teaching. If they are the English teacher I would say yes they should speak perfect English. They might as well count out teachers from certain regions of the US then as regional dialects tend to not be perfect English.
shyguy140

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May 24 @ 11:38AM  
There are very few people who speak 100% correct english 100% of the time.
dmbchick420

May 24 @ 11:46AM  
I don't think teachers should be scrutinized with a fine-tooth comb. Nobody is ever going to be 100 percent perfect.
Wordsofwit

May 24 @ 11:56AM  
I would think that it should depend on what they are teaching. If they are the English teacher I would say yes they should speak perfect English. They might as well count out teachers from certain regions of the US then as regional dialects tend to not be perfect English.

I agree with ^^^. So under this rationale, Albert Einstein could not teach physics, Henry Kissinger could not teach political science, etc.

I also think that there is a litany of legal issues preventing them from doing this.

Now, here is a game for you that I may have posted before. It is based on what a professor told me in college. What US city that is large enough to have a professional sports franchise is considered to have the "perfect" American accent? I'll give you the answer this evening.
flavorbuster

May 24 @ 12:01PM  
Well asking a teacher what she said over & over again is a distraction because you can't understand what she is trying to teach in the first place would be a reason to say yes. I'm not talking about British way of speaking where you hear every letter in every word spoken for example ( doing ) while we get a way with just saying doin like ... What are you doing ? You would see it as perfect English reading it but verbally speaking it would sound like what are you doin ? My dad says doing like the British making it sound like you just tapped an authentic wine glass & it gets on my nerves.I could care less about dotting tees & eyes just as long as they can be understood. The majority of the meaning of communication is to be able to understand one another. I know some people want to see the words coming out of your mouth like those sing a longs on television with the white bouncing ball but thats bitching about nothing to me & just petty shit. All in all if they can be understood then my answer would be no if they didn't speak just out right broken english that would double the time spent on a subject.I DID PAY ATTENTION TO THE TEACHERS LIKE THIS
surv6969

May 24 @ 12:47PM  
I have never experiance a languge problem in K-12 but in college it is a terrible problem. You pay all that money to get an education and you cannot understand your Professer. I hear it just keeps getting worse especially in math and science type classes. My brother had a computer science instructor who was from somewhere around India. He got a C- in that class the only one he did not get an A in. I know you can sometimes change classes if you cannot understand the Professor but not if they are the only instructor for that class.
straightup_9

May 24 @ 12:58PM  
I think all teachers should speak "perfect" english. This doesn't mean without an accent, but does refer to the proper use and context of the language.
Kinda hard for the English teacher to make any impression on a kid who hears his Math teacher say "We be gonna work inna workbooks today"

JMHO

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Ewe_Wish

May 24 @ 1:23PM  
I like Surv.......have seen it in higher education but not so much in K through 12. Now granted I do live in northern MN where we don't have all the professionals not being able to speak English well...........but I did in OH..........

I don't care if they have an accent..........heck two of my teachers in grade school had a very pronounced Finnish accent but we could understand her.............and thats my point........We could understand her.......now I think as long as they can teach and be understood that is one thing............but if the students can't understand them....than they either need to learn better English or they need to find another occupation............we have enough illiterate kids running around..........if they can't understand the teacher they are definitely going to have a harder time learning.
casuallylooking

May 24 @ 2:03PM  
When I was in college I had an instructor that was difficult to understand so I switched classes. I ran into him once and he asked me why I left his class... I actually lied to him and told him that it worked better for my schedule.

My daughter has an instructor this quarter that she can't understand for anything... but she has to take this course this quater and no other classes to go to. Luckily it's not one of her major classes. But she hates feeling like she is wasting her money and time being in his class since it's all foreign to her... No pun intended.
B9CC1D

May 24 @ 3:07PM  
As having been a teacher I have to say the answer to "Should they?" is no.

However, I will state for the record that it helps a great deal if you do.

For one thing, even young children are aware of the idea of accents and dialectical speech. Furthermore, if the person has a thick accent or dialect, they also seem to recognize that is not the correct way of speaking.

A case-in-point is when residents of Philadelphia's Bouvier Street phonetically pronounce it "Ba'Veer". For non-residents it makes it confusing what they are saying.

So the thing is that when you pronounce things well and use proper grammar you do 2 things: Firstly you exude confidence and respect. Secondly you are using appropriate and proper English.

WHY this is useful is so when the little fuckers complain that they didn't understand what you were saying they don't have a leg to stand on. (Very frequently students not paying attention in class will blame their subsequent poor grade on the fact that the teacher was not speaking clearly. Which is strange when every other student in the room heard just fine and the hearing tests came back OK.)
theSkwirl

May 24 @ 3:22PM  
No one in America speaks perfect English, why should we expect teachers to be any different than the rest of us. We all speak a sort of polyglot pidgin. However, I do believe that they should use words properly.
theSkwirl

May 24 @ 3:24PM  
Bruce, is it still Boston?
sugarnspice005

May 24 @ 6:39PM  
I honestly do not think anyone speaks 100% perfect English all of the time. I feel if a teacher is teaching English, then he/she should speak it very well. One shouldn't be denied a teaching job because they may have an accent, that is just wrong.
Wordsofwit

May 24 @ 9:59PM  
The answer to my question is Cincinnati.
EltonKirk

May 24 @ 10:07PM  
Perfect English meaning the Queens English????

I know a first grade teacher from England who has gotten criticized for using Proper English not American English.

It may sound a bit different but is still English! Bimey!!
StraddleMyNose

May 24 @ 11:03PM  
For the most part, yes, they should...
KitKat25

May 25 @ 12:54AM  
now I think as long as they can teach and be understood that is one thing............but if the students can't understand them....than they either need to learn better English or they need to find another occupation............we have enough illiterate kids running around..........if they can't understand the teacher they are definitely going to have a harder time learning.

I agree with Ewe_Wish completely. I've had teachers who were extremely difficult to understand and it stressed me out when I was taking notes during a lecture. I can understand that it's not their fault...but their English should be easy to understand...and not hinder a person's learning process.

For the record...this did happen to me mainly in college...but I did have a few teachers in high school with this problem...and it was a bitch.
ynot7769

May 25 @ 12:58AM  
sure Ynot
flavorbuster

May 25 @ 3:40AM  
Perfect English meaning the Queens English????
Probably so Elton John.

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Should Teachers Have To Speak PERFECT English??