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Ashland, Oregon is a town known for an annual Shakespeare Festival, its free thinkers and increasingly...nudity. The city council has been grappling with the issue of public nudity ever since a woman moved there from California several years ago. Her frequent displays of nakedness led the city council to pass an ordinance banning nudity in city parks and downtown.

For whatever reason Ashland's reputation as a place where nudity is accepted was cemented. It's not that uncommon, many say to see someone walking down the street with nothing more than a belly pack and tennis shoes. Last May the issue turned more serious when a retired computer programmer was spotted walking nude around an elementary school as the kids were leaving for home. One city councilman proposed creating a buffer zone around schools. The effort failed.

Fast forward to October and there was another naked man walking around several schools. He came all the way from Minnesota. The police arrived and had to protect the man from angry parents. The cops told the parents the man was doing nothing illegal. That incident has prompted yet another attempt to legislate nudity in Ashland.

The mayor proposed banning nudity city-wide. That touched off yes, naked protests from those who feel nudity is a form of free speech. And to be sure there is some history of naked protests in Ashland. Anti-war demonstrators held a "buns not bombs" protest attended by one of the city councilmen.

This week the council will take up the mayor's proposal in what figures to be an interesting debate. The city attorney will be asked to clarify how the ordinance does not violate a person's right to expression. If the council passes the ordinance it will actually de-criminalize public nudity in Ashland. Currently it's a misdemeanor to be naked in the parks or downtown. The proposal calls for nakedness to be a violation similar to a parking ticket.
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StraddleMyNose

Dec 14 @ 7:47PM  
Is nudity a form of free speech? My answer....NO!

Especially when there are kids around.
sugarnspice005

Dec 14 @ 8:01PM  
Freedom of speech? No. Freedom of expression? maybe. But, to walk around nude near a school? NO! Unacceptable.

They should reach a compromise....let the nudists buy a gated community for them and let them walk around nude all they want.
3zcumpany

Dec 14 @ 9:00PM  
It shouldn't even be a issue in a public area where there is even the smallest possibility of a minor being subjected to seeing some old fat nasty bastard running around in the buff.

Being in the navy, we hit most of the islands in the Caribbean, of which there are several nude beaches. Trust me in saying I have yet to see anybody that really should be at one naked! Most of these people shouldn't even change cloths with the lights on!

Answer NO!

And the clowns walking around the schools should count their lucky stars that it wasn't my daughters school!
ynot7769

Dec 14 @ 9:09PM  
food for thought....nudity has NOTHING to do with sex UNTIL you teach it...nuff said..


odd to find this type of attitude HERE of all places......
StraddleMyNose

Dec 14 @ 9:13PM  

food for thought....nudity has NOTHING to do with sex UNTIL you teach it...nuff said..


odd to find this type of attitude HERE of all places......
Yeah, but this site doesn't have minors on it, well, not suppose to anyway. But to walk around nude in public where there are children around, I feel that's innopropiate.
shewolf53

Dec 14 @ 9:33PM  
Not to mention that there are some people in the world I just do not want to see naked.
belle1010

Dec 14 @ 9:37PM  
Straddle you're a prude, and ynot is right nudity isn't an issue until someone makes it one.

Personally I wouldn't walk around nude in public, and i'm pretty sure there are others that wouldn't want me to as well LOL.

I know there is at least one member here from Ashland, i'm curious to know what she thinks. I might just have to ask her.
StraddleMyNose

Dec 14 @ 9:41PM  
Straddle you're a prude, and ynot is right nudity isn't an issue until someone makes it one.

Personally I wouldn't walk around nude in public, and i'm pretty sure there are others that wouldn't want me to as well LOL.
Well, Belle, you may find more prudes on this site than you think when we're talking about walking around nude in public around schools where kids are. Kids don't need to be seeing this.
flavorbuster

Dec 14 @ 9:43PM  

Is nudity a form of free speech? Yes it's saying look at me I'm naked. IT IS HERE
Well when I was a kid I didn't mind seeing a full grown woman naked which I have. As boring as school was it would have been nice to see a lady streaking through the playground. Well when I was a kid my dad had a whole stack of Hustler magazines stashed in a drawer that I'd gander at when all was clear but when I told my older brother he ratted me out to my mom. She threw everyone away & that ended the birds & the bees or my fun sex education. So Junior High youngsters & up probably wouldn't complain.
StraddleMyNose

Dec 14 @ 9:47PM  
So Junior High youngsters & up probably wouldn't complain.
Yeah, I know a lot of these kids around this age (especially males) wouldn't mind this, but that's beside the point.
sugarnspice005

Dec 14 @ 10:47PM  
I'll be clear here....people walking around nude...I'm all for it. Just not around a school.
ynot7769

Dec 14 @ 11:48PM  
. But to walk around nude in public where there are children around, I feel that's innopropiate.


as i said your reaction is a TAUGHT one ....from time your a child....its still got nothing to do with sex...
DarkKnightWalking

Dec 15 @ 1:37AM  
If nudity is such a travesty...

Then someone better start a fund to clothe one hell of a lot of statues and paintings then...you know , the ones that hang in a thousand museums and parks and public forums, having been lauded for centuries as the epitome of art.

I also agree with ynot. The reaction itself is a taught one. And given a choice, I would rather a youngling witness someone being themselves than a single minute of all the softcore PORN being shown after 10PM on ALL the major movie channels.
1bunny629

Dec 15 @ 1:47AM  
reaction is taught. if we were more comfortable with nudity in the USA there would be less sex crimes.
RevDocLove

Dec 15 @ 7:57AM  
some old fat nasty bastard running around in the buff.

Damn, man .... That hurts

I agree with Ynot and DKW and Bunny...
It's all in the propaganda you're taught as a child..
Art throughout the centuries has told us that nudity
was considered beautiful
But I still ain't gonna' do it
because nobody should be subjected to that bad of punishment
theSkwirl

Dec 15 @ 1:12PM  
Ok let's talk about Ashland's nudity law... cuz I live here. First off, if you are near a public place your genitals are to be covered. Chest, breast those are all good.. but your skwicky bits are supposed to be covered. While it's not a crime to be naked (unless you are in the city park where it's also illegal to smoke) it's frowned upon to dangle your junk in public. It's not freedom of speech. it's freedom of expression. There is a woman who rides her bike around town wearing nothing but a hemp g-string and no one is hollering about her, except that she can't ride in the 4th of July parade that way. The real issue here is not nudity, it's obscenity near a school. That is what needs taken care of.

Note that it was NOT an Oregon or Ashland native who was perping this behavior. It was someone from out of state who thought it would cover his proclivity for exposing himself to children. True nudity isn't about showing off what you got to little kids, it's just a non conventional mode of dress. This guy was sporting an erection..

Should Ashland change the nudity law? In my opinion, no. The nudity law is fine, what it needs to do is establish acceptable parameters. Just as with drug pushers, if they are within 1000 feet of a school? They should be arrested and get extra time.
selectusername

Dec 15 @ 1:13PM  
Let's all get naked and figure this thing out together!
theSkwirl

Dec 15 @ 1:14PM  
Children who are exposed to actual nudity, not lewd behavior, do not view the human body as something dirty or prurient. How do I know? I'm one who saw nudity all around me.. a body is a body.. that's why it's the mind that turns me on.

If it's natural, if it's accepted and not made into a dirty thing, children will only see nudity for what it is. A body without clothing.

belle1010

Dec 15 @ 6:57PM  
If it's natural, if it's accepted and not made into a dirty thing, children will only see nudity for what it is. A body without clothing.


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