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This is MY opinion, and mine alone. I'm sure there are those who will disagree and you are more than welcome to share your own opinion. However, because this is MY opinion...don't bother throwing statistics at me. I've seen them, and as far as I'm concerned they don't matter. I don't base my opinion on statistics, I base them on my own experience.

With that said...

I am a qualified marksman on three different weapons; the M-16 rifle, the 9mm and the .38 revolver. I have the paperwork and ribbons to prove it. I can also shoot a .22 rifle and handgun, although I never actually took the class to qualify on these. Given the chance, I could probably take them apart, clean them and put them back together...but I'd probably need a refresher course first.

However, I do not nor have I ever owned a gun of any type. I don't approve of having guns in my house, and even while growing up in Detroit we never had guns in our house.

There has been alot of talk lately regarding gun control, and the possibility of stricter laws being enacted, to the point of banning certain types of weapons. While I may not personally like guns, I do not believe that banning any type of gun is going to curb criminal activity. It will only create more criminals...making responsible, law-abiding gun owners into law-breakers simply because they own a gun that has been deemed illegal to own. History has already proven that banning or making illegal anything; be it guns, drugs or anything else...does not keep it off the street or out of the hands of true criminals. This has been especially true with regard to so-called "assault" type weapons.

Is there a viable solution for keeping guns out of the hands of felons? I don't believe that there is an across the board permanent solution. However, I do believe that stricter measures for distribution, and harsher penalties for suppliers and dealers who sell illegally need to be enforced. When more than half of all violent crimes committed with a gun are a direct result of those guns obtained illegally; either from guns stolen or guns obtained from other means; the ones supplying these guns have to be held accountable. This includes guns being sold to known terrorists, illegal aliens and convicted felons.

Another problem we have in this country is guns getting into the hands of children and teenagers, and children and teens being injured or killed by guns; either accidentally or intentionally. This is one of my biggest concerns, and the main reason I don't have guns in my home. All too often I hear about a child getting hold of a gun to show off to a friend, only to have it go off and kill someone. Or a baby being killed by cross-fire during a crime. Then to find that either the gun being shown off was, while legally owned and registered, not properly stored...or a gun used in a crime was obtained from a gun show or convention with no background check requirements.

Now I am an advocate of the 2nd Amendment, the right to bear arms. However, lets face it. A gun of any type has only one purpose; to kill. When you get right down to it...whether you are a law-enforcement officer, a collector, a hunter or just like to go to a range and shoot at targets...this is what a gun was made to do. And in the hands of criminals, terrorists and felons...or even just the irresponsible or just plain stupid...this is what a gun does.

This is why I believe that enforcement of gun laws are necessary. Background checks, registration and permits, and even required gun safety courses...or at least a proven record of knowledge on safely handling a weapon, should be required. And dealers or suppliers, whether they are at a trade show or convention, or a gun store, have to adhere to these laws or face penalties up to and including fines and jail time.

I know there are those who will say that guns don't kill people...people kill people. And you are right. To you I ask: Would you commit a crime, or murder someone in cold blood? I'm not talking about self-defense or in the defense of your family or home. I would also ask, what measures do you take to ensure your gun does not end up in the hands of a criminal, or a child?

As far as I'm concerned, one crime commited with a gun obtained illegally is one too many. One child killed because a gun was not properly secured is one too many. It angers and saddens me to hear about incidents like Columbine, or more recently the 8 year old boy who will probably be tried as an adult for shooting and killing two people. It also frustrates me because these things create a rallying point for both sides. Gun control advocates use incidents like these to call for more and stricter laws and the banning of more weapons, which causes gun enthusiasts to go on the defensive in order to protect their right to bear arms.

I suppose I should explain what has prompted this blog...

First of all...the discussions that have ensued since the election. Democrats are historically "anti-gun". Given the chance, some Dems would completely strip gun owners of their rights and trample all over the 2nd Amendment. Our current President's views on gun control are known...if not well-known. I believe that at least some of his opinions and policies are naive at best, and certainly unrealistic.

Also, my 18 year old son has shown an interest in guns, wanting to learn how to handle a weapon and shoot, but also to learn the responsibilities that go along with owning and handling a weapon. His interest has increased after learning that his father not only owns several guns, but belongs to clubs, and participates in competitions. Aaron even asked me recently if I could take him to a gun range. I don't have a problem with this, but I still would not want him to own a gun while living here. I also don't have a problem with his father owning guns and showing him how to use them. I have confidence that his father is responsible...especially considering that he got at least some of his training from the same source that I did.

While it may seem to some who read this that I'm going back and forth on the issues of guns, I'm not. Owning a gun is a right, however along with that right comes great responsibility. Anyone who cannot reasonably guarantee the safety of others with regard to their own weapons should not own a gun. Anyone who has committed a crime, or is mentally unfit and unable to safely and responsibly handle a weapon, should not own one or have access to one. And anyone who supplies guns without regard to public safety should be punished.


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theSkwirl

Nov 14 @ 9:14PM  
In my opinion and just my opinion..

I am for the waiting period to purchase handguns. I am against removing American's right to bear arms.

I feel that stripping the common man of his right to own a gun will leave guns only in the hands of criminals.. and make many of us criminals. I know for a fact that I would not head out into the hills without one. Not because of people.. there's bars out der.. and cougars and stuff that would just as soon make me it's dinner.
selectusername

Nov 14 @ 9:14PM  
Hmmm, well I usually restrict my comments to failed attempts at
humor but I did go shoppng for a shotgun recently. I found that
I could get a Mossberg 20 gauge for less than 200 bucks at
Wally World. My mother called me awhile back and said, "I think
I heard a noise, could you come over and check it out?" I realized
that if it was a criminal I didn't even own a firearm to protect her and
she lives on a 50 acre farm. Having said all that, I found gun shopping
to be a depressing experience because I was all the time contemplating
the fact that I was not buying the thing to hunt quail if you know what I mean.
Anyway, I never did buy the damn thing and I was in the Army so I do know

how to use firearms. Fuck it, I'll just bring a baseball bat I guess.
sundance64

Nov 14 @ 9:18PM  
A baseball bat works...and generally doesn't leave much of a mess!

Unless the other guy has a gun...just sayin'
shewolf53

Nov 14 @ 9:22PM  
I might have a different perspective on gun control considering I have lived in neighborhoods here in Fayettenam (Fayetteville) where I had bullets going by my head while I was taking out the garbage. If they could find a way of making guns harder to get for criminals I would be all for it on certain weapons. I am not talking about hunting rifles but there are some weapons who should not be owned outside of the military or law enforcement. First of all I do not think that pawn shops should be allowed to deal in firearms. I feel that anyone who wants a gun should have to go through a very long waiting period to check out both their criminal or mental record and be required to take classes on it's use. And if you get caught with an illegal weapon then it is one strike and you are in jail for a very long time. Here it is too easy to get your hand on a weapon and the murder rate around here shows it. I don't think you can take all guns away from people but I think there should be a control on how many and what kind you can have. And for people's info yes I can shoot a gun and was taught how to use one at age 7 by my grandfather. There is use of guns and abuse of guns and that is the difference in my opinion.
shewolf53

Nov 14 @ 9:37PM  
A baseball bat works...and generally doesn't leave much of a mess!

Unless the other guy has a gun...just sayin'


So does a crossbow and you don't have to get as close as a baseball bat.

sugarnspice005

Nov 14 @ 9:40PM  
While it may seem to some who read this that I'm going back and forth on the issues of guns, I'm not. Owning a gun is a right, however along with that right comes great responsibility. Anyone who cannot reasonably guarantee the safety of others with regard to their own weapons should not own a gun. Anyone who has committed a crime, or is mentally unfit and unable to safely and responsibly handle a weapon, should not own one or have access to one. And anyone who supplies guns without regard to public safety should be punished.

This last paragraph summed it up perfectly. Yes, the 2nd Amendment guarantees the "right" to bear arms. I interpret that to be...as a citizen in this country, it is my right to own a gun. But, along with that right, comes responsibility. I do "own" a gun, it's an AK 47. No, I did not go out and buy this gun. I inherited it when Mick died. He had it, along with a Luger, and a .38, which the police took and destroyed. For those who may wonder why, and don't know the story about Mick, he was my fiance, who, after years of b.s. by his older brother, fell into a dark place he couldn't get out of, and eventually did suicide. And he used his .38. So..needless to say, I don't want anything to do with guns. That's me.
shewolf53

Nov 14 @ 9:46PM  
I don't own a gun but I do own a couple of crossbows, three swords, and about a half dozen knives that I collected through the years. I go hunting with the crossbows and the rest hangs on the wall of my home, some for ceremonial purposes and some just because.
thickhandle

Nov 14 @ 11:25PM  
God, guns and guts made America. Let's keep all three
40DWM

Nov 15 @ 1:17AM  
An armed society, is a polite society.
Before concealed carry was legal in many states, road rage and occupied
home burglaries were much higher. Most criminals do not fear cops or
unarmed victims. One thing they do fear, are states like Texas that have
laws like our 'Castle Doctrine', that state if a criminal comes onto your
property with bad intent, it's legal to shoot them.
It's easy to sit back and talk of 'common sense', or 'regulating' the RIGHTS
of others. This country has a long history on each side, but the people
that wrote the 28 pages that outlined this great nation had ideas,

'Benjamin Franklin ''Those who desire to give up freedom in order to gain security will not have, nor do they deserve, either one."'

In many major cites, after being called it can take up to two hours for
overworked/underpaid cops to get to you.
Next time you are in trouble, call Domino's, 911 for the cops and 911 for
the firemen...see who gets there first.
On the bright side, the first responders will have Pizza waiting on them
while your body is put into a bag.

The Second Amendment is the only thing that guarantees the others,
and anyone that wants to give them up, are welcome to go to any
country that embraces socialism.
ladybootscooter

Nov 15 @ 3:23AM  
I do own guns, I am certified and qualified in both safety and marksmanship. I grew up with guns and learned to not only use them properly at a very young age, but to also treat them with utmost respect. Growing up on the farm and growing up a hunter, they were, while perhaps not an absolute necessity, but at the very least a way of life. I've saved many a calf, colt and probably several flocks worth of chickens from coyotes through the years. I raised my son around guns as well and taught him to always assume a gun is loaded and treat it as such. Even if you know you just unloaded it yourself. I must admit Sunny, I was damned proud of my son for recently qualifying as expert, especially since it was me, mom, who taught him to fire a gun in the first place! While I have been a member of the NRA for many years and enjoy not only target shooting but hunting as well (which it is deer season here as of this weekend!) I do have strong feelings that it should be harder for many people to get a gun. There should be more stringent qualifiers, to obtain a weapon, such as safety training and stricter criminal background checks along with perhaps a longer cool off period from the date of purchase until you can actually take posssession of the weapon. And to those "hunters" that claim to have a need or right to an AK47 and the like........for what? If you need an automatic with the capabilities to fire 600 rounds per minute to take down game of any size......perhaps you need to spend more time at the target range, because you obviously need more practice.
Just my .02
onehornytoad69

Nov 15 @ 5:31AM  
I agree with shewolf53 and LBS....

(I think ...Im In love with LBS.. )

I do have strong feelings that it should be harder for many people to get a gun. There should be more stringent qualifiers, to obtain a weapon, such as safety training and stricter criminal background checks along with perhaps a longer cool off period from the date of purchase until you can actually take posssession of the weapon. And to those "hunters" that claim to have a need or right to an AK47 and the like........for what? If you need an automatic with the capabilities to fire 600 rounds per minute to take down game of any size......perhaps you need to spend more time at the target range, because you obviously need more practice.
Amen!!!!
whisperingcomet

Nov 15 @ 7:21AM  
Criminals will not care if having a gun is illegal, thats why we call them criminals, because they ignore the laws.

I have a small handgun in my home, and if some crazed strung out junkie came in here trying to hurt me or my little dog...i would shoot him before my next heartbeat

thanks for an interesting blog, lately we have had some interesting blogs, so nice that every one can give a personal opinion.
sundance64

Nov 15 @ 7:29AM  
I hope you fine folks are not misunderstanding me. I'm not necessarily for more laws, or even stricter laws. I'm not for banning weapons.

I do not believe this will solve the problem we have in this country with weapons and crime.

What I do believe is stricter penalties for those who break the laws that are already in place. Especially those who sell and distribute guns.
sundance64

Nov 15 @ 7:36AM  
God, guns and guts made America. Let's keep all three


You're gonna love my next blog!
PinkToeNails

Nov 15 @ 7:44AM  
I own a gun.... I don't have a permit to carry one but I have one in my home...and if anyone were to try to come in here on us, if they get past the chow, they'll be shot on sight! No if ands or buts about it!
sundance64

Nov 15 @ 8:03AM  
Now that's interesting PTN...the difference between owning and carrying. It is not illegal to own certain types of guns...but to have them on your person in public requires a permit (in most states, this is how the law is written).
PinkToeNails

Nov 15 @ 8:06AM  
Yes you have to be licensed here in TN to carry... and I will be getting my permit soon. I feel safe here at home but want to feel that safety when I'm out in public too... never know when you're gonna run across some looney tune!
alybai42

Nov 15 @ 12:53PM  
I don't like guns..I won't have on in my house. My ex use to go hunting and I made him keep his gun elsewhere. Why because I am scared of them..

I do have a baseball bat near me at all times..
loveableone

Nov 15 @ 1:03PM  
Great blog by the way. Me, personally, I hate guys - get very uncomfortable around them, especially handguns. My dad hunted, so I was around rifles lots, and I even shot them a few times at the gun range, but I definately dont like them.

Laws are a good thing. and I believe it is people who kill people - not the guns - if a gun is in the hand of a good person, then the killing of another human is not necessary (not sure if it makes sense, but it does in my mind LOL) tired this morning, but have a great day everyone!!
soft_touch938

Nov 15 @ 1:05PM  
I just think John Q. Public (criminal or otherwise) shouldn't have more fire power in their hands than law enforcement or military. A machine gun in the hands of the general public is NOT for self protection...in my opinion...it's meant for destruction and usually of the innocent bystanders.
Lisa46

Nov 15 @ 6:14PM  
Owning a gun is a right, however along with that right comes great responsibility


I think this sentance says it all. I don't own a gun. I will get one of my dads eventually which will be for sentimental value and yes I will want to learn how to use it, clean it and so forth. I will also register it. That is my responsibility
mrelko

Nov 15 @ 9:59PM  


All i have to say is don't take a knife to a gun fight
Thenewguy2957

Nov 17 @ 12:19PM  
I agree with everything you said except I think it should be applied to cars.
Cars kill 55% more people than guns and there are fewer of them.
There are imported cars that can reach speeds of 200 mph or more...why does any law abiding citizen need a machine that so exceeds any legal speed limit anywhere in the country?
Smugglers routinely use cars to spread their drugs around the country as well as illegal aliens.
Illegal guns are smuggled in to Mexico using cars.
Criminals routinely use motor vehicles to get to or get away from crime scenes, bank robberies, drug deals, rapes, home invasions etc.
Pedophiles are provided with an easy method of hunting for and taking young children which they can then use, abuse, even murder and then dispose of unseen and unnoticed.
No background check is required to purchase an automobile. Convicted drunk drivers, speeders and other criminals can own one without restrictions. No license or registration is required to purchase or own one, every year dozens of people are killed by drivers with no license, illegally driving a legally purchased vehicle.
A motor vehicle can easily be found and bought. Newspapers advertise them, car shows offer them, they are on the internet and even on street corners and parking lots, even near schools where children learn to idolize the automobile culture.
Mass public transportation is a viable alternative to nearly any excuse for private vehicle ownership or would be if cars were outlawed.
Cars pollute and use up precious non-renewable resources, they are destroying the planet and we have alternatives.

Disagree with me? Why, because you own a car and it would be 'inconvenient' for you to do without it, you care more for your car than the thousands that are killed and maimed by them every year?
So then why should I, a law abiding citizen, give up my gun?

Ban parole, ban cars, not guns.
Thenewguy2957

Nov 17 @ 12:57PM  
don't bother throwing statistics at me. I've seen them, and as far as I'm concerned they don't matter.

This then gets ridiculous because statistically (according to the CDC) more children die in bath tub or bucket or bicycling accidents than from guns but you aren't taking a stance against those things

Unfortunately statistics don't support any of your solutions as an effective means of reducing violent crime, probably why they don't matter to you....that leaves emotional responses which are never a good method for dealing with any problem. .

The Founding fathers intended for us to have the means to protect our liberty from an abusive government that's why we have the 2nd amendment and the right to own these firearms.

We are at the point now where the government controls the criminal population of this country. They have created laws that make thousands of people criminals and they have paroled and let loose thousands of those criminals and then used the resulting crime statistics to attack the rights of the law abiding.

They intentionally manipulate people through mass media so that they want to give up their rights, blaming guns not the criminals, for the murder rate and by extension the government that put those criminals on the streets. This is the definition of government abuse, the kind of thing the Founders gave us gun rights to protect ourselves against.

Would you give up your right to vote because of election fraud. What if that fraud resulted in corrupt politicians getting into office that started illegal wars that killed thousands? Of course not. You'd instead try to vote them out of office.

But I don't want to attack you or your blog personally which is the way it's starting to come across. I'm attacking the notion that gun control will make us safe, that more government control will make us safe. Not true, it was government control that created the danger.

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