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  dmbchick420

Anyone hear about this on the news or read about it?

Excerpt from the article:

The Obama Administration's ballyhooed shift away from federal prosecution for state-sanctioned pot sales and use does not necessarily signal a turning point in the effort to legalize (and tax) marijuana. We are probably still a generation or two away from that. But the new White House policy is no small matter, either, for it means that tens of thousands of Americans now are free from federal persecution and prosecution for conduct that is completely legal in their own states.

And then one of the comments at the bottom kind of struck me the wrong way...

Legalize weed?

That's just what this country needs...masses of stoned, unproductive and paranoid workers, while China and India teach a billion children calculus by age 12.

Think straight. The taxes we would gain would be overshadowed by the macroeconomic productivity losses inherent in a drugged populace.


I'm sorry, but I think that is some backward ass thinking! I'm a regular pot smoker and a productive citizen. I work a full-time job and I take care of my responsibilities! So many people think that because something isn't for them, then it's not for anybody.....WRONG

Like the article says, the official government position now reverts simply to something akin to legal neutrality: if you smoke it, we won't come, because we have more important things to do with our time.

What are your thoughts/opinions? I'm not interested in hearing "Obama sucks" or anything of that nature. I don't care what you think about Obama....I am talking about this policy in particular ONLY and not looking to get into any sort of political debate here, so leave that crap at the door before you comment.

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RevDocLove

Oct 20 @ 9:58AM  
I read the article yesterday and thought that it was a BIG step in the right direction..Although I myself haven't smoked anything in years
With the exception of Mullet! (Damn, they're hard to keep lit!)
dmbchick420

Oct 20 @ 10:02AM  
I have another question, if you don't smoke weed currently because it is illegal but became legal, would you smoke it? If not, why? Just curious.
Wordsofwit

Oct 20 @ 10:17AM  
There continues to be social evolution that has been ongoing over time. Beyond weed, issues like gay marriage are also changing. At the forefront of all of this are the states and that will continue to be on a case by case basis. I think the federal move to defer to the states is quite wise as it gets the spinach off of their plates so to speak.

As for rarely taking a toke anymore. It is simply that it is rarely that much fun any more. It kind of reached the point of diminishing returns by my mid-forties. The flip side is that the adverse effects and reactions by my respiratory system now are much more pronounced. But if I happen to be in Ohio over the holidays and you bake some special brownies, be sure and let me know.
somnium

Oct 20 @ 10:17AM  
I have another question, if you don't smoke weed currently because it is illegal but became legal, would you smoke it? If not, why? Just curious.

I certainly would!!

I would much rather be in the company of people smoking pot, than people who drink too much- especially when they're driving! People who drink too much, cause accidents!

About the worst thing people driving while under the influence of pot might cause, is taking five times longer to get where they're going- that's good for the economy too, as it would take five times as much gas to get there- not to mention the munchees on the way!

JMO



thelimey214

Oct 20 @ 10:36AM  
I think the USA is finally getting with the programme (sorry about the spellings I'm a Brit). A step in the right direction for sure! I live some of the time in BC, Canada where for many years you couldn't get busted for possession of under 1.5 ounces of weed. It has been medically legal for years. In UK it's impossible to get busted for dope in any amount unless you are selling it and it's medically legal there too.
As for pot causing the young to be stupid, in-educable, BOLLOCKS! In the 1960s and 70s I was a student at UCL studying Engineering, all of us students smoked a lot of hash and all graduated, me with a B.Sc 1st class honours degree, I then continued as a grad student and obtained a Ph.D in Geophysics. I don't know if the pot helped, maybe the acid but it certainly didn't hurt!
All the best Dave.
flavorbuster

Oct 20 @ 10:48AM  
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Ewe_Wish

Oct 20 @ 10:58AM  
I think its about time........as for the comments at the end of the article............sorry I would rather spend a day with someone at work that is high on pot.......than someone who is drunk............and that happens a lot.........

I have another question, if you don't smoke weed currently because it is illegal but became legal, would you smoke it? If not, why? Just curious.
As I said in another blog the other day.........I don't smoke it and never did...........BUT if they legalized in MN, my doctor would be prescribing it for me for pain management..........and I can tell you i would rather smoke something that is natural than have to continue taking the strong meds I am on that I have no idea what all the chemicals are that they put in them..........

I also think that if they made it legal..........and i mean for anyone........with the set laws that they do with alcohol........there would be less use of it from teenagers...........and even it there wasn't a decrease......tax it ..........take the tax money and pay for the rehabs for all drug and alcohol problems and programs......that our already limited funds are paying for............we would not only be able to pay totally for these out of the tax...........but probably pay off a lot of our national debt..........and people are going to use it whether its legal or not..............JMO
shewolf53

Oct 20 @ 11:27AM  
I did not really smoke pot back in the 60s / 70s, but if it were legal I probably would now for aches and pains. I think it would be a lot safer than the codine based meds the doctors give me. As for the special brownies, still have my recipe for those, just in case I want to make them again.

I have a young friend whose parents were hippies. One day he decided to slip one of his mother's brownies she kept on the top shelf of the kitchen cabinets into his lunch. Said that class was really interesting after lunch as he was pretty much the only stoned thrid grader there. The teachers all thought he was just sick and sent him home where he was in big trouble with his Mom who had told him he could not have those brownies in the first place. He said after that there was always a lock on that cabinet.
Sunshine79

Oct 20 @ 11:58AM  
I think this is a subject that could be argued on forever.........Legalize it already.
onehornytoad69

Oct 20 @ 12:09PM  
Most everyone Acts differently when smoking weed!!!
Most get mellow....some relax a little..some get to where they dont give a shit!!! Etc.
I use to chat with a lady from Northern VA....that smoked weed...she was a Nurse of 32 years!!!
She was fired because she didn't "give a shit"....yes..It was the effects of the weed that made her that way! (Her words...Not mine!)
Some Ppl can handle it..some cant!!!
The last time I smoked weed ...was Many years ago....I went to my Brothers house that was 1 1/2 hours away.....we worked on his truck most of the day...and we smoked a few joints....
Then I left coming home.......

I had my family with me..(wife and 2 children) ...the sun was High and Bright...beaming in my Eyes.........I came to a very sharp turn...in the road...and couldnt see it for the sun light being So Bright...! I kept Straight ...and the road turned to Gravel.....!!!!!! (I missed the road) Scared the Hell out of me!!!!!

I don't Like coming down..it makes me sooooo Sleepy!!!! So... No I wouldnt smoke it..if it were Legal!!!
McBunman

Oct 20 @ 12:17PM  
I agree with Bruce. This is one of these issues that over time, people's perception changes. Most of the people that are in power now have smoked pot. So the days of the powers that be believing in the "Reefer Madness" scare tactics are gone. It is only a matter of time before it at least becomes decriminalized. And I don't smoke anymore, for some reason it is just something that quit doing anything for me about 5-7 years ago.
lunanegra

Oct 20 @ 2:54PM  
Progress is good, its all-good. However, I just think its something of a diversionary tactic to get people talking and debating, just like the issue of illegal immigrants.

Marijuana is a non-issue, as in its more harmless than prescription medication, alcohol and cigarettes...just legalize it, damn. I mean, caffeine and nicotine are more addictive than pot, and if someone does manage to "ruin their lives" by smoking it, it probably has more to do with the person's personality and will-power, not the plant.

There are many sources on the internet mentioning how beneficial the stuff can be, and going by anecdotal evidence- my mom. Its good for those in pain from cancer, fibromialgia (sp), sickle cell anemia(like my mom) and those who have cataracts. And hemp is used in cosmetic stuff, clothing and food. The reason why the stuff is being outlawed because if the gov't can't make a buck off of it, its "immoral" and "ruining our youth".

/novel over,lol
KitKat25

Oct 20 @ 5:42PM  
My son used to be on Ritalin to stay focused, Seroquel to relax and Ambien to go to sleep. He was also smoking 2 packs of cigarettes a day, drinking ungodly amounts of coffee and caffeine type beverages. Oh yeah...and he was throwing in a bit of alcohol to boot. Now he smokes a couple of joints a day (in the evening after work), has the occasional beer with a buddy and is down to 3 cigarettes a day. You know what I say to my own son? Keep smoking the pot. He's healthier, happier and no longer dependent on so many harmful substances.

Myself? I've tried it a few times, but it never really did much for me...although I do like it in brownies.

Since moving to Canada, I've met many people, very productive people I might add, who smoke pot daily. I think it's a personal choice and if done in moderation, is quite safe. It's been legalized and taxed in other countries with success. The U.S. needs to follow suit and stop debating the issue already.
sugarnspice005

Oct 20 @ 7:41PM  
I would much rather be in the company of people smoking pot, than people who drink too much- especially when they're driving! People who drink too much, cause accidents!

From a former pot head here. Yes, people who drink too much do cause accidents, that is true. But, I know from my own experiences that if one is too stoned, their perceptions are all out of whack, and reflexes are slow..therefore, being high is just as dangerous as being drunk.

Now, if it were to become legal, I probably would smoke it again.
StraddleMyNose

Oct 20 @ 7:51PM  
Yes, people who drink too much do cause accidents, that is true. But, I know from my own experiences that if one is too stoned, their perceptions are all out of whack, and reflexes are slow..therefore, being high is just as dangerous as being drunk.
I agree with Dawn with her comment.

This may be unpopular to say this here, but I'm not for legalizing pot whatsoever...
JustAnAvatar

Oct 20 @ 8:35PM  
I smoked pot daily from my high school years until my mid to late thirties. During that time I graduated from high school, college, started a career and climbed the ladder. It obviously didn't keep me from being productive.

I don't smoke it any more and probably wouldn't even if it were legal. But I see no reason why it shouldn't be legal.

I would especially think that those who believe in limiting the power of government over the lives of individuals would favor allowing people to make this choice on their own.
fortysixandtwo

Oct 21 @ 7:22AM  
The Obama Administration's ballyhooed shift away from federal prosecution for state-sanctioned pot sales and use does not necessarily signal a turning point in the effort to legalize (and tax) marijuana. We are probably still a generation or two away from that. But the new White House policy is no small matter, either, for it means that tens of thousands of Americans now are free from federal persecution and prosecution for conduct that is completely legal in their own states.
This DMB is moreso in answer in response to the swath of bust of Med facilities over the state of Cali in the last few months.Especially the recent Nazi styled DEA raids that they just pulled in San Diego shutting down almost every med facility there.It's nothing more than damage control,because if you delve into it.You'll see that there really was no basis for what they did .I'm not gonna point fingers because it wouldn't make any difference who had been in office especially in San Diego,This is moreso in response to what Civic leaders there wanted versus to what was the law in the state in California.


It's not gonna matter anymore there(Cali) anyway.The buzz that I'm hearing is with most residents in the know there is,Cali will be legal across the board in the state in as early as 2010

I think the big problem is the infighting and seperation of reform factions is between should it be taxed vs. the ones who feel it shouldn't..Well if Big Brother has anything to do with it is ya know whose gonna win that one.Money is gonna always win out.Legalization with taxation in the state would get California out of the hole very very fast.

There's 400,000 MMJcard holders in the state and if it's legalized. That number will be astronomical,at least double in people who will be using those places to get there jollys.The rumor is that it would be taxed somewhere near $50 a oz.(that's alot of f'kin money ) and can you imagine the money that it would bring there if all ya have to is show is a ID like you do when purchasing alcohol.Especially if it's not regulated to just state residents.California will become the vacation spot of the world.And gawd knows what kind of money that would put in the state coffers.Yeah the politicians there are rubbing there hands together and salivating over that.
shiningstar85

Oct 21 @ 11:58PM  
I honestly, don't see what the big deal is.. I don't see too many people picking up smoking just because it's now legal, though I'm sure some will.. so it's not like the entire US would turn into potheads.. and I happen to know alot of very successful people who smoke regularly. Pot doesn't make you lazy, laziness does.

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