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posted 6/18/2009 8:24:42 AM |
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  nativeamr35

I think we all can agree, that to be a Politician is to be a liar. Well, at the very least that is the sentiment. I also, think we can all agree that we would be better off without politicians who lie.

With that I give you the following thoughts...

Democratic Socialist of America are deceitful liars whose only goal is the subjugation of all of mankind. (mostly opinion)

Q Aren't you a party that's in competition with the Democratic Party for votes and support?
No, we are not a separate party. Like our friends and allies in the feminist, labor, civil rights, religious, and community organizing movements, many of us have been active in the Democratic Party. We work with those movements to strengthen the party’s left wing, represented by the Congressional Progressive Caucus.

If DSA is the Democratic party, why will no one admit to being a member of the DSA? Why the need to hide who you really are? Is there something to be ashamed of?

I had found an article written by a DSA member on the connection of our current POTUS to the DSA. He ran and won the IL Senate seat on the DSA ticket. But for some reason I can not find it again. I'll keep looking.

Also, if you read the goals of the DSA you will find them very instep with the current Admin's policies.

So why are they hiding? If they are so great and powerful. If they have such great masses of support?

I tried in vain to find something somewhere that declared a politicians party affiliation with either a Dem. or DSA party. I have not located that information yet.

Lastly, why are the DSA members not giving up their wealth to, "Practice what they preach".

When anyone refuses to admit what they are doing and who they are, they are misleading you.

DSA argues that Unions and co-ops are the way to end corporate greed. How about just punishing the thieves? Oh wait, most of them are lawyers. Just like their brethren, the politicians.

It seems to me that we have a case of the criminals trying the criminals.

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somnium

Jun 18 @ 10:22AM  
It seems to me that we have a case of the criminals trying the criminals.

From a non- political point of view, therein lies the problem! "professionals" rarely punish their colleges, no matter what their "profession" is. And when they do, it's because their college was so over the top, they have to do something- you know, to make it look like they're policing their "profession!"

Wordsofwit

Jun 18 @ 11:26AM  
Who are the Democratic Socialists of America?

If DSA is the Democratic party, why will no one admit to being a member of the DSA? Why the need to hide who you really are? Is there something to be ashamed of?

In trying to avoid laughing at the questions and the implication, the only answer that I can possibly give is that there are only around 10,000 DSA members in the country.

As of this writing, the population of the US is 306,700,231 people. So the odds of any of us finding a DSA member to ask your questions to would be less one in 300,000.


shewolf53

Jun 18 @ 11:43AM  
As for people being liars I think they are pushed into it by the electorial process. If a politician said I will try to see what I can do people would not vote for him although that would be closer to the truth. People want someone to say I am going to do this then get pissed when he can't get everyone else in the house or senate to go along with him. Same goes for presidents of either party. They have intentions of doing what they say they are going to do but have to deal with other politicians who may or may not go along with their ideas.
Personally I would love to pass a law that says that if a congressman or senator votes no on something then they have to have a better idea to be discussed immediately instead of just voting no because their party lost the election or they don't like senator A or B or just had too much to drink the night before and are in a bad mood because they have a hangover. And when things can't get done just once I would love to see a president order the doors locked down and no one goes home until something gets done. I also think the president should have line item veto. It would speed things up and limit pork barrel projects. Why would they bother to add on a pet project if it was going to get deleted?
As for the DSA. Don't know anyone who is a member that I can think of.
StraddleMyNose

Jun 18 @ 5:54PM  
Lastly, why are the DSA members not giving up their wealth to, "Practice what they preach".
Yeah, I noticed that as well. Seems like they love spending other peoples money instead.
nativeamr35

Jun 18 @ 6:25PM  
I will post separate responses to keep clarity.

WoW, I'm not sure why you would be laughing. Is it the seemingly small number of declared DSA members? I can only make assumptions at this point.

From the link you provided here is another link. The one from which the numbers were gleaned.

http://www.commondreams.org/view/2008/12/10-3

There are of course many people who consider themselves socialist and do not belong to any "official" socialist organization.

They may be found working in various unions, civil rights organizations and feminist and other progressive groups.

In my research, I find that the DSA, which btw has been around in the US since 1901, actually admits that it prefers to influence Democrat’s and Republicans rather than be out front for all to see. (that’s kind of like shadow government) That’s where the question comes from. Not in the idea that I would like to see a patch sewn to their lapel, so I can identify them at the grocery store.

In the 1960s, the Socialist Party adapted a strategy of working within the Democratic Party alongside its allies on the left to strengthen the liberal wing of the Democratic Party in the hopes that a new more left-wing party could be formed.

Now I ask you WoW, how many Democrat’s and Republicans are allied with the DSA? How many union administrators? So forth and so on.

Now, a request. I was hoping to find a list of people who are politicians, who are either DSA members or affiliated with DSA. I can not find anything that links any politician to the DSA. I know there is at least one.
Wordsofwit

Jun 18 @ 6:47PM  
Now, a request. I was hoping to find a list of people who are politicians, who are either DSA members or affiliated with DSA. I can not find anything that links any politician to the DSA. I know there is at least one.

Again, the odds of finding a DSA member are less than one in 300,000. A needle in a haystack to me. If you take a vacation to Kansas, let me know what you find, if anything. Otherwise, if you have a statistical quantified valid point from a reliable source, I would be very interested in seeing it.
nativeamr35

Jun 18 @ 6:49PM  
Shewolf53, your first paragraph is not far from the truth. Although, I will add that anyone who was honest before office was at the very least jaded by politics. Enough so to get them to run for office. I hear the words running thru my head...

"I'm an honest guy. I think I'll run for office. I'm far better than those theives." Ego added for humor.

As for the second paragraph....WTF????? Really!!!

Blair Holt's Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act of 2009 (Introduced in House)[H.R.45.IH]

Expressing the sense of the House of Representatives that a Federal statute requiring firearm registration would unduly burden the Second Amendment right of the people to keep and bear... (Introduced in House)[H.RES.351.IH]

With your idea both of these would become law. Which one do we obey??????

Just passing laws willy nilly, because they will be punished if they don't??

We have tooo many laws now, what will happen if this became true???

Wordsofwit

Jun 18 @ 6:53PM  
Who commondreams.org is appears nebules.
nativeamr35

Jun 18 @ 6:54PM  
WoW, to what subject matter would I be researching? i.e. what statistic?
What would you consider a reliable source? Let me know, I'll do the research and report back.

Otherwise, if you have a statistical quantified valid point from a reliable source, I would be very interested in seeing it.
nativeamr35

Jun 18 @ 7:39PM  
Found one....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernie_Sanders

Found another. though this one barely rates politician...

http://www.ontheissues.org/Brian_Moore.htm

Yet another....though this one is truely in need of help. Mental help.

http://www.ontheissues.org/Gloria_La_Riva.htm

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