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Should Sotomayor get a free pass?

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  StraddleMyNose

Should Sonya Sotomayor be confirmed to the U.S. Supreme Court, or should she remove herself from consideration due to some of her past remarks and comments she made on race and sex. Do you honestly think she is a racist? We all know that if this was a Republican, all the liberals and the media would be calling for their head on a silver platter. Seems like double standards are the norm for liberals. Remember how the liberals and the media tried to ruin the lives of Thomas, Roberts, and Alito?

I do believe she should remove herself from consideration, but we all know she won't. Do I think she's a racist? Racist might be a little too strong of a word for her, but that could be dabatable in many ways. I feel like Republicans in the senate should really grill her on this in the hearing. I'm sure she will have the votes when it's all said and done, but I certainly wouldn't make it easy for her in any way.

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StraddleMyNose

Jun 2 @ 1:11AM  
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Dione

Jun 2 @ 1:17AM  
No one can cubbie-hole me politically, but my opinion is let her stand the test of question/response in Congress and let the chips fall as they may.

No one is immune, today especially, to overt or in-depth scrutiny without someone finding fault with our thoughts, position or opinion.

Our nation, where our founding fathers are concerned, is built upon freedom/liberty and constitutional law. As long as these factors are used in decision making I'll stand by it whether I agree or disagree. If it's based on equality, i.e balance of public opinion, it ain't gonna work.

The important fact is freedom is at stake... it's more important than anything else.
casuallylooking

Jun 2 @ 1:29AM  
No one is immune, today especially, to overt or in-depth scrutiny without someone finding fault with our thoughts, position or opinion.
Amen.

Truthfully, Shawn, I haven't paid much attention to what's going on with her or her past records... except for a few things. Not enough to say yeah or ney... for or against her.
So I can't even answer your question............... for now anyways.
shewolf53

Jun 2 @ 2:44AM  
Liberal or conservative, people should be approved or not on their merits, not because someone does or does not share their political viewpoint or are licking wounds because their party lost an election.
StraddleMyNose

Jun 2 @ 2:53AM  
Liberal or conservative, people should be approved or not on their merits, not because someone does or does not share their political viewpoint or are licking wounds because their party lost an election.
I agree with you, but in my opinion, she's not qualified whatsoever. So many of her cases have also been overturned through the years because of her judgement in these cases.
slohand_47

Jun 2 @ 2:59AM  
Why should she step down for being a racist? That is why she was picked in the first place. She's a Latina woman. That's her deciding qualification. (it certainly isn't her record on the bench)

To heck with what she said in 2001. Be more worried about her connections to La Raza. Who are they? They want all the land taken from Mexico in 1846 to be returned to Mexico. Since they can't do it by force, they are re-populating it and will do it with the ballot some day in the next 50 years or less.
Oh yeah, we need her on the supreme court.

http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/11444
shewolf53

Jun 2 @ 3:29AM  
Since it is not up to me to decide if she is qualified or not, I will not bother to comment on that. I have seen a lot of people in the courts and politics I would not have picked for that position as they did not have the temperment or the smarts for the position they were holding at that moment. But I am smart enough to know what I think does not mean shit in the scheme of things so in general I just stay out of political discussions as I don't need the headache. I leave the picking to those who are paid to do it and if I don't like what they pick I just don't vote for them to be elected to another term. In my opinion though this country does not need a liberal court system or a conservative court system. What we need is a fair court system.
evild614

Jun 2 @ 3:32AM  
I would hope that a wise Latina woman with the richness of her experiences would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a white male who hasn’t lived that life;our gender and national origins may — and will — make a difference in our judging.

This is nowhere NEAR the most offensive or racially insensitive thing I've heard come out of a Supreme Court justice's mouth over the years. Besides, who's always going on about how we should get rid of the politically correct "language police" who want to limit people's speech? Can't have it both ways.
StraddleMyNose

Jun 2 @ 4:18AM  
Evild, she certainly comes off as somewhat of a racist to me as far as her ruling went with the firefighters city exam goes when the white firefighters were the only ones that passed that exam promotion from the city up in Vermont (or some northeastern state), while no black(s) or latino(s) could pass it. She ruled for it to be thrown out because it wasn't fair to the minorities. There's your political correctness....and reverse race discrimination towards white people! In my opinion, she's not fit to serve on the U.S. Supreme Court!

As for this quote from her...
I would hope that a wise Latina woman with the richness of her experiences would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a white male who hasn’t lived that life;our gender and national origins may — and will — make a difference in our judging.

Imagine if a Republican white guy said something to this effect for any office. I don't like double standards, especially from liberals! To me that is very hypocritical to excuse themselves from such quotes while making excuses for anyone from their own party. True, I don't agree her politics... hell, I don't like her politics either, and can't respect her politics as well, but to say that she is qualified is a joke!

I have seen other liberal judges nominated and voted in over the years, and even though I didn't agree with their politics, they were more than qualified enough to be nominated for the U.S Supreme Court position.

Is she honestly the best Obama can do as far as credentials go? Ya know, she's from Obama's Chicago too.

Since it is not up to me to decide if she is qualified or not, I will not bother to comment on that. I have seen a lot of people in the courts and politics I would not have picked for that position as they did not have the temperment or the smarts for the position they were holding at that moment. But I am smart enough to know what I think does not mean shit in the scheme of things so in general I just stay out of political discussions as I don't need the headache
It's in everyones best interest to be concerned with any U.S. Supreme Court nominee.

flavorbuster

Jun 2 @ 5:20AM  
I'll put it this way , I'm not complaining about non white people having it better than me , which they do.. It's a double standard altogether. It is supposedly a poor pitiful me statement coming from non white people but If we were to use the excuse of not being able to achieve or prosper due to another race, , it always accounts as racism. We are restricted to speak of this in politics I believe we should use her as a stepping stone to get this country back on track to legitimate equal opportunity. In my opinion for these reasons I feel she shouldn't get the position. In closing you know politics will never change a damned thing for the better.. It never has & never will.
Wordsofwit

Jun 2 @ 8:45AM  
I want to see her, or any Supreme Court nominee, put under the microscope in the hearing. These are people under consideration for a very important position with no term limit that the American people do not vote for.

She definitely has the experience and an impressive resume. Where I might have concerns is not over a few comments that may have been taken out of context, but in whether in her rulings, she has a tendency to legislate from the bench. I am sure we will find out as the process moves forward.

Do bear in mind that she was nominated to the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of New York by President George H. W. Bush.

she's from Obama's Chicago too.

No offense, but that is ignorant right there. I have never seen any mention of her even visiting Chicago, though she probably has, much less being from there. Maybe you are confusing her with Ophra.

Sonia Maria Sotomayor is a federal judge on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit. On May 26, 2009, President Barack Obama nominated Judge Sotomayor for appointment to the U.S. Supreme Court to replace retiring Justice David Souter. If confirmed, she would be the court's first Hispanic justice and third female justice.
Sotomayor is of Puerto Rican descent, and was born in the Bronx. Her father died when she was nine, and she was raised by her mother. Sotomayor graduated with an A.B., summa cum laude, from Princeton University in 1976, and received her J.D. from Yale Law School in 1979, where she was an editor at the Yale Law Journal. She was an advocate for the hiring of Latino faculty at both schools. She worked as an Assistant District Attorney in New York for five years before entering private practice in 1984. She played an active role on the boards of directors for the Puerto Rican Legal Defense and Education Fund, the State of New York Mortgage Agency, and the New York City Campaign Finance Board. Sotomayor was nominated to the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of New York by President George H. W. Bush in 1991 and confirmed in 1992.
Lisa46

Jun 2 @ 8:56AM  
You know Shawn as in the past we have seen many things our government has done and got taken out of context. Then we have seen things that were permitted and swept under the carpet so to speak. I mean Just cause Kennedy was fooling with Marilyn didn't make him a bad president hell he was great! Just cause Clinton got caught recieving head didn't make him a bad president just a dumb man for getting caught with pants down. Allow these people to show what they are made of.
visualone209

Jun 2 @ 10:40AM  
If one is to be judged solely on their merits she fails. She has a 60+% reversal record as a Federal Judge and a big one is about to be reversed as we speak that will be a huge embarrassment to her and the Obama regime. This is why they are trying to ram rod her through so quickly with little vetting.

I think racists is to strong a word. Way to strong. I'm thinking facts here not socialist. She is a radical leftist as Obama is. She agrees on every issues he does and none of the conservatives. That is to be expected, I understand, but in her own words she say "feelings" should be used in deciding law and not only the law by itself. She also advocates making law from the bench and those are her own words. She is radically wrong on all of those counts.

She will be confirmed even though she should not. She fits the Socialist mold and has proved it over and over, from her stint with the administration and membership in La Raza to her bad ruling in court. Remember people Supreme Court Justices are forever. Well lifetime anyway.)
Laura
shewolf53

Jun 2 @ 10:47AM  
I never said I was not concerned about who holds positions just that I do not usually get into political discussions about it. There is a difference you know. I usually find in political arguments people already have their mind made up about that person anyway and I just have better things to do with my time than fight with them about it. Do these fights online or anywhere else change anything? No. They just give me a headache I do not need. I do my talking with my vote when election time comes. Personally I would like to see the courts an even balance between women and men and all races represented because this country is made up of more than just white males. I want to see a Native American judge appointed to the bench, I want to see a Native American president with an Asian or Hispanic vice president. I want to see a day where race is not a factor in qualifications. For over two hundred years this country was run by white males making laws some good and some bad that the rest of the country had to deal with then. And look at the mess we are in now. It is about time that everyone was represented. This country was supposed to be a melting pot. It is not supposed to matter what your background is but what your qualifications are. It is time that women and minorities having to be twice as good to get half the credit is a thing of the past. Just my opinion which with a couple of bucks will get me a cup of tea.
StraddleMyNose

Jun 2 @ 11:09AM  
Do these fights online or anywhere else change anything?
Who's fighting? I thought that discussion and debating was going on here...

she's from Obama's Chicago too.

No offense, but that is ignorant right there. I have never seen any mention of her even visiting Chicago, though she probably has, much less being from there.
I thought that I did hear about her being from Chicago from one of the news outlets on tv. If I'm wrong then it's a mistake on my part.

Allow these people to show what they are made of.
I have already seen enough of the socialist we have in there now, and I don't want anymore of this!
visualone209

Jun 2 @ 12:22PM  
I also wish to see the day when race is not an issue, but by the mere fact that one s nominated because some people wish to have a Hispanic or a Native American or, an Asian or any race is racism in a form all it's own, The Socialists have conned so many into this idea they are all inclusive, but look at the reality. They have each group divided into separate groups. Without the Republicans Lyndon Johnson (an old style Democrat) would never have been able to pass the Civil Rights Bill. The left liberal wng of the Democrat party fought it tooth and nail. Bill Clinton's mentor, Orville Faubus, an admitted racist, had forced segregation in Arkansas only to have the National Guard have to come in to enforce intergration. Same happened in Alabama and Mississippi and other states. Oddly not in Texas. In todays Senate the senior Senator Robert Byrd is the former Grand Poobah or whatever those idiots call themselves of the Ku Klux Klan. And a KKK member most of his life. He uses the "N" word on the floor of the Senate and in TV interviews, yet conservatives are called racists and no one says a word about him. What's good for the goose is good for the gander, people.

I said that any judge should be confirmed on their actual merits. Not once did I add race or gender into my belief in who is qualified or not. An honest judge ruling on LAW, not emotion, not upbringing or any other bias of any kind would be a fair judge to all. I am not nor have I ever looked to race or gender as a qualifier for any elective office or job. I could go into my former career, but I know many don't like that and I do not want to color this anyway but with fact and reality. BTW. Judge Sotomayor is not the first Hispanic to be nominated contrary to Obama and the media. Eisenhower (Republican) nominated one and what about Miguel Estrada recently? Also nominated by a Republican. If memory serves I believe Teddy Roosevelt (Republican) also nominated a Hispanic. I could be mistaken which it was Federal or Supreme on that though.

The mess we are in now is the fault of many from both sides of the aisle, but the two biggest are the very people that head the House and Senate Financial Committes. Barney Frank and Dick Durbin respectively. They blame Republicans for lack of oversight and say Republcans did not want rules made and enforced. Au Contraire! It was the Democrats who passed and demanded that all banks give loans to people who could not afford them not matter what. And that is the homes that became the downfall of banking and housing market with the the deflauts by these people who could not afford them. This law also created a false market because of the high demand from buyers. Yes there was some speculators, but statisticly they are less than 1% of the mortgage downfall. Remember I mentioned causal effect? Well there you go. The very people who wanted to give away mortages to anyone started screaming the Republicans didn't have oversight and blamed them for the Socialist created problem. Sotomayor backs these same kind of laws that put us where we are today.

Please note, I am not debating any particular person on here. I am speaking my beliefs based on fact, much of which comes from the Socialists themselves. Not the media ( my husband works in the media, for full disclosure) and leftist pundits or any other pundit. Facts and actual history is my source. I absolutely believe in every persons right to believe and vote and speak freely as they so desire. Because I disagree with most of the issues of the Socialist left does not make me a racist. Race in my mind has no bearing on my beliefs. And before I am accused of name calling by using the name socialist, look up what a socialist is and what the liberal left (Democrats) is.
Laura
paulywalnuts

Jun 2 @ 1:30PM  
Laura (Visualone).....said it all....ditto...ditto..
Wordsofwit

Jun 2 @ 2:13PM  
If memory serves I believe Teddy Roosevelt (Republican) also nominated a Hispanic. I could be mistaken which it was Federal or Supreme on that though.

I may be mistaken on what you mean, but you may be referring to Benjamin Nathan Cardozo, Supreme Court Justice that served from 1932 until his death in 1938. This was during the Franklin D. Roosevelt administration.

It had reported within hours of the announcement of the Sotomayor nomination that Cardozo was actually the first Hispanic Supreme Court nominee. This was quickly recanted. His ancestry appears to be as a Portuguese Jew. But scholars remain uncertain about the background of his family's nationality. As near as I can tell the Spanish do not consider the Portuguese to be Hispanic.

In this instance there may not be any answers but only more questions as explained in article from the Harvard Law School.


visualone209

Jun 2 @ 3:29PM  
You are most likely correct on Cardoza and which Roosevelt. As I stated I was a little fuzzy on that and off the top of my head. So I stand corrected on that point.True the Spanish do not see the Portuguese as Hispanic, but surprisingly they also do not see Mexicans as Hispanic! I was stunned when we stopped in Barcelona on our trip to Italy to find his out. But we are talking US, not Spain, they have their own problems with the socialists, communists and facists What I do find weird about the Sotomayor nomination is the Mexicans are upset because they are saying, she is the "wrong kind of Hispanic." WTF!!!! She is actually Puerto Rican. So what?! She also was in the leadership of LA Raza and has been a member of that leftist group for years! Excuse me, who are the racists? Remember when Obama wasn't "black enough" during the primaries? Then he became the candidate and the racism was anyone who did not agree with him totally as it is now. Sorry, it is very confusing, I need a Democrat Game Program to keep the players straight half the time.
Laura
Wordsofwit

Jun 2 @ 4:08PM  
I need a Democrat Game Program to keep the players straight half the time.

I not sure that I would limit it to the democrats or half the time. For example, Nancy Reagan and Barack Obama appeared together at the White House today, and he announced the nomination of republican congressman to be Secretary of the Army. Yesterday, former Vice President Dick Cheney repeated his support for the idea of same-sex marriage. Jokers wild?

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Should Sotomayor get a free pass?