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Men & Women...we are not equal

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  Dione

I'm sure I may garner the wrath of my own sex with the headline of this post, but I believe that it's true—men and women are not equal. In fact, none of us are equal.

Allow me to clarify my position. Within the context of my view, it does not matter if you believe in a higher power or not. It also does not matter why or how we came into existence. What is important is to recognize that men and women are different and therefore, cannot be equal. It's the same whether we are discussing men or women only. No two men or women are equal.

Stop and think about this
before you begin taking umbrage with my thought process. Don't you know women who are smarter, prettier, richer, poorer, better mothers, or better lovers than you are? If you're honest, you will agree. It's the same with men—there are men who are richer, poorer, better providers and better lovers than other men. This is part and parcel of being human.

Now, in the context of the U.S. government
and it's treatment of it's citizen, it is different. I believe the government must treat us equally within the law. The playing field must be even to maintain order as well as keep society in balance. However, this is the only venue where men and women are equal.

Obviously, my view is mine and mine alone.
I'm curious about what you think about this subject as well as how you came to your conclusions.

This is the beginning of voicing a few beliefs that I have about men and women and freedom and equality.

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dmbchick420

May 11 @ 3:13PM  
No...we are not equal. In fact, I watched some program on TV (can't recall the name) where they did a study and found that women working the same EXACT positions as men were getting paid less simply because of their gender. Hard to believe that this old way of thinking still exists today, but it does and probably always will.

As far as being better mothers, lovers, providers, etc, etc, etc....every body is going to be different in that regard no matter what their gender is....I wouldn't say men are better lovers or providers (or whatever) than a woman or vice versa...it depends on who that person is.

My .02.
somnium

May 11 @ 3:20PM  
Now, in the context of the U.S. government and it's treatment of it's citizen, it is different. I believe the government must treat us equally within the law.

One fine example of women and men being equal in the eyes of Unky Sam is:

Assuming that a woman and a man earns an equal salary, regardless what each is employed in, Unky Sam will tax both at the same rate! That right there, shows that the government believes in equal opportunity!

Dione

May 11 @ 3:26PM  
dmbchick - essentially we are in agreement... we are all different, therefore, not equal.

I have very mixed thoughts about the disparity of pay when each of the sexes can perform the same job and not be paid the same... but that's for another blog. Thanks.
Dione

May 11 @ 3:37PM  
somnium - I agree that we should be equal in the eyes of Unky Sam, but it isn't always so.

Unky Sam gives preferential treatment to folks (male or female) who have served in the Armed Forces when applying for civil service positions. They automatically receive a five point score advantage. Thus when a regular citizen applies for the same position as an armed service member (retired or honorable discharge from active duty) the armed service member has an automatice five point advantage.

Don't get me wrong, I am not anti-military. I know our Vets receive other benefits from our government. I do not have any quarrel with any of them except in the competition of applying for work within civil service.

Thanks.
somnium

May 11 @ 3:53PM  
True enough in what you say! I meant the public in general- not tied to the government, which would qualify people to receive the benefits you speak of!

visualone209

May 11 @ 4:16PM  
Okay, I'm going to open my mouth and give this a try. I agree with Dione that women and men are not equal. Never have been and never will be. I think each person has his or her strengths and weakness's. People in general, see differences because of their own thinking, ideas and beliefs. I know my former career is not the norm and most have a hard time identifying with it and only have a superficial understanding of it. I am only 5 foot tall and weighed 90-95 pounds back when I was young. (I am a whopping 100 now ) When I first began there were a limited amount of photographers that would hire me because I was small and all they had was a stat sheet and a few photos in the agency portfolio. All were looking for taller women. The fashion industry wants even taller women. Long way around, but I was "unequal" due to my size.

In modeling, be it fashion or glamour (nudies), women were and are paid much higher than men for exactly the same work. Sometime as as much as 4 times more. In Fashion it gets even more out of whack.

Why do we, women, pay more at the cleaners to have clothes done that are smaller than a man's?

A man my size is discriminated against, yet he is and always will be much stronger physically than I. This is true no matter what your sizes.

Point is there are all kinds of differences. So real, some perceived, some imagined, and some out of outright stupidity. I never would have a chance at becoming a rocket scientist, but I doubt the engineers (male of female) could have done what I did. I could go on and on with differences, but they are what they are and for me I say "Urra per la differnza!"
Laura
girlcountry

May 11 @ 6:06PM  
The only comment that I have is this....men and women are not equal, never will be. i don't have a problem with women being paid what men are paid for doing the same job, IF they are qualified!!

To get a job just because I'm a woman? I would feel discriminated against, just on that point alone!! I'm a woman, so therefore, I must need need special treatment?! Sorry, I just don't agree with that!!

I could go on, but I know for a fact that my views will just piss some people off, so I think I'll shut up now!
mrknowuwell

May 11 @ 7:00PM  
equality...........if I got a sex change.......I would start making less money for the same job???
borty293

May 11 @ 8:02PM  
I have a tendency to celibrate our differences and seem to learn new things.
Not only do I learn from individuals but from different cultures.
For instance ...I was fortunate enough to be introduced to Native American culture and as a result it enriched my life considerably.
adventure8000

May 13 @ 1:51PM  
When we look at Earth from space, it's flat.

When we look at the walls of Yosemite, we realize that it isn't flat.

How closely do we look for equality? From the governments point of view there has to be equality. When our view bores in deeper the differences show up.

Whenever I meet people they get the benefit of the doubt, they're my friend. Then, it's up to them to show me that they will continue to be my friend. At what level do I have to be open and friendly to people? The people who show up as equal to my trust get it. Otherwise, they're not equal.
nativeamr35

May 15 @ 7:37AM  
In fact, I watched some program on TV (can't recall the name) where they did a study and found that women working the same EXACT positions as men were getting paid less simply because of their gender. Hard to believe that this old way of thinking still exists today, but it does and probably always will.

I am living proof of why this inequality exhists. As a single father raising my child, I know why pay is not the same. My pay has not been equal to my male or female peers. Why??? Because I can not work the same hours or dedicate myself to the same level that my unburdened peers do. Thereby, I'm not actually doing the same job.

As a business owner, I would not pay a man the same wage if he were absent on average, 20 days a year. Absent for medical reasons. Absent to take kids to the dentist or doctor. Absent for school functions. The truth of the matter is women need more time off to address their very different bodies. Is this a hard line of division between male and female? No. In general, Men work more days than women. Why? Because they can.
Loveyoulongtime2

May 15 @ 7:58AM  
visualone209said:
A man my size is discriminated against, yet he is and always will be much stronger physically than I. This is true no matter what your sizes.
In a physical job a man pound for pound is physically stronger than a woman, of course there are some exceptions. That is why most construction workers and firefighters are men. No one is equal, people should be paid according to how they perform....sadly that will never happen because there is always discrimination. People don't have equal opportunity to get a job on ability alone, there is always discrimination of some sort. Mostly it's who you know, or who you blow. Some women can get ahead on looks alone, but that almost never applies to men.
Yes, men and women are not equal. All men are not equal. All women are not equal. All of this is pretty much obvious.

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