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posted 6/28/2007 3:05:21 PM |
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  SchrodingersCat314

Illegal Aliens?

First off, they're not aliens, they're human beings
Second, how can any human being be illegal?

I want everybody to ask themselves why they're so opposed to immigrants
Then I want you to to discount any ideological reasons (ie ones that are based on ideas and feelings without a basis in logic (material reasons)) such as "this is our country" "they broke the law" etc.

Some say that theyre taking our jobs
but they only take the ones that nobody wants
and it's not them who are taking our jobs, its the process of deindustrialization, ie putting jobs like factories overseas where they can pay the workers less

The living conditions in mexico are hardly tolerable
Those who come seek to feed their families, or be able to eat themselves. They dont come just for the hell of it or with the intention of "invading"
Its not that Mexico is a country without resources either, in fact they could easily feed their people; however, Mexico, like all other puppet governments in latin america, sells its resources to america, who will pay more than the people of mexico can afford. Thus, millions of dollars of natural resources are eploited from mexico to america each day, and we tell those we're exploiting from that they can't come here?

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Lisa46

Jun 28 @ 3:10PM  
do you think it might be they get "assisted" with everything the united states has to offer?? Where as the people born here don't get shit?? Or the fact I pay taxes and they don't??? just in case you didn't know!
bentan

Jun 28 @ 4:44PM  
I'm all for immigration but I prefer that people get in through the proper channels so that they can be properly accounted for and accommodated. There are several reasons for this:

One, for the immigrants' protection. Illegal immigrants get exploited and abused by greedy employers who have a hold over them because of their illegal status.

Two, for the country's protection. While most illegals may be here for honorable purposes of feeding themselves and their families, the fact remains that a significant number of criminals can and do cross over here.

Three, fairness to all prospective immigrants. The fact is that the US is viewed worldwide as a very attractive country to migrate to. That Green Card is like gold to many people. Do you think it is fair to say someone from Somalia or China to have less of an opportunity to come to the States than a Mexican just by reason of proximity?

Four, urban planning and population redistribution. If you are an illegal immigrant, you are likely to be stopping not far from the border. As long as you can find work and other immigrants you are not likely to be looking further afield in the US. Wouldn't it be better if immigrants, based on their skill sets, be relocated to where they are most needed? Such planning and optimal distribution of labor is hard to do if people come over illegally.

Having said that I will admit that the proper channels are quite broken and the people in-charge need to fix it. But as a fundamental principle I still believe that it makes good sense to admit people to our country in a structured way. Justifying improper channels in the short run just because the proper ones are broken leads to more problems in the long run.
midlife138

Jun 28 @ 5:23PM  
Why don't we just go and grab all of the starving people from Africa,Brazil,Phillipenes and every other country in the world and bring them here?
kernlover

Aug 8 @ 10:02PM  
what most people forget is that we all came from immigrant stock and this country was called the great melting pot the problem is no one want to take responsibility for their own actions anymore so lets blame everything thats wrong with this country on the immigrants how about get off your ass and work stop thinking your too good to do a job take control of yourself first before you speak ill of someone or cultures you don't understand

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