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You can hate or disagree me if you want, but this is a bitch of mine. Why is it that we live in the USA and English is the primary language but anytime you call somewhere you get a recording asking you to press 1 for English???? I feel like the recording should say that if you speak a language other than English then press 1. I am not saying that it is wrong for someone to speak another language, but I should not have to verify that I speak the language from the country in which I live and am making the call. I may sound close minded and I apologize to anyone I may offend, but it is a damn shame to have to request to speck to someone in the language we were taught.

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BigFlirt

May 6 @ 2:23PM  
I agree with you on that except i wont apologize for it..lol...
casuallylooking

May 6 @ 2:26PM  
I am in total agreement. I also believe that if you are going to life in This country, you should speak our language.
ValentineGirl214

May 6 @ 2:35PM  
That pisses me off too!! If you are going to come here and live, learn the language and our ways!!
StraddleMyNose

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May 6 @ 2:44PM  
Yep, I totally agree with ya!
JJN4Fun

May 6 @ 2:45PM  
I wonder if people in other countries complain that many things are offered in English in their countries like I see so many people doing here?

In today's world, people are visiting and living in countries where the primary language is not their own - it's a fact of life since, oh, when people started exploring the world around them. When I think about our military personnel and tourists in other countries, I imagine they are glad when an option for their own language is offered - first, third, or ninth. How the recording is worded seems to be a petty complaint if you ask me.

Hey, it's not like I don't experience frustration when I go somewhere or call some place and the person has a heavy accent I have difficulty understanding - or they have difficulty understanding me. But, I try to keep in mind that this country OFFERS people from other countries to come here, spend their money, pay taxes with purchases...basically, to help support our economy. If we remove all the people who don't speak English as a first language, so we don't have to offer things in other languages and force English-speaking people to "press 1 for English", I have a feeling it would greatly affect our economy. (Not to mention the number of people who would have to find new maids, gardeners, and fieldworkers.)

There will always be a plus and minus to just about everything.
JJN4Fun

May 6 @ 2:46PM  
because of so many legal and illegal immigrants settling here

Does anyone know where to find stats on illegal vs. legal immigrants and tourists? Are we forgetting that both Puerto Rico and the Dominican Republic - both Spanish-speaking countries - are essentially part of the US?
JJN4Fun

May 6 @ 2:50PM  
Immigrants who came to the USA from other countries several years ago were forced to learn English to assimilate.

OMFG! Was English the original language spoken here? If you want to talk about history, go back to before this was an English-speaking country!
coltsfootball

May 6 @ 3:01PM  
JJN thank you for your opinion, I knew that not everyone would agree and you are entitled to your opinion.
StraddleMyNose

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May 6 @ 3:03PM  
When we American torrists go to other countries most of us know that we have to adapt to another language in these other countries. These other countries expect us too, and more than often enough we have these booklets and small hand held computer that will help us out with the language. That's more than what I see over here with the mexicans trying to learn ours. We shouldn't have to adapt to the spanish lanuage here in this country, mexicans should adapt to our common language here in this country as we Americans would do elsewhere abroad! Thisw has been debated over recent years, and I have noticed that most Americans are getting pretty sick of this trend here.

woollybear575

May 6 @ 3:26PM  
Sí, convengo coltsfootball1. ¿Cuál está para arriba con esta gente no hispanohablante? Lo dejamos saltar nuestra cerca en el patio trasero, trabajos de la toma de nuestros pobres, presionamos nuestros salarios y todavía bitch. ¿Sido a la Florida últimamente? Aprender que lo hizo el inglés como mis antepasados de Gran Bretaña. La esperanza alguien consigue esto además de jj4f
JJN4Fun

May 6 @ 3:26PM  
Pues, Straddle - que te vaya bien!

When we American torrists go to other countries most of us know that we have to adapt to another language in these other countries. These other countries expect us too

Why do you say this with such contempt, as if you (we) aren't expecting the same...or as if they are wrong for wanting the same? And whoever said that non-English speaking people aren't trying to learn English - before and after coming here? After all, English is taught in how many other countries in primary school - and ESL (English as a Second Language) classes are everywhere - and utilized. And guess what, not only by Mexicans. What about Bosnia refugees (and I hate that word)? What about the folks from the Asian countries we brought here so they could be safe and have better lives. It's not just the Spanish-speaking population. I know that WI laws require that certain things be offered in 2 languages: Spanish and Hmong. Why not just admit it; if it's not mainstream-American your attitude is NIMBY (not in my back yard).

Si, que te vaya bien! No me importa su opinion. Que sera, si? Si!
sumdaysoon

May 6 @ 3:27PM  
no hablo ingles.........
coltsfootball

May 6 @ 3:40PM  
Muchas Gracias To All
woollybear575

May 6 @ 3:46PM  
Zurück an dir bildet coltsfootball1, alles im guten Spaß und JJN4FUN etwas sehr gute Punkte. Aber IMAO, das wir nicht ein, es bedrängen noch müssen sollten, sollte sein, wenn du eine Fremdsprachepresse 1. sprichst.
coltsfootball

May 6 @ 3:48PM  
Repeat That In English Or At Least Japanese, I Understand A Little Of That
totallytaboo

May 6 @ 3:59PM  
Companies have to be politically correct without fear of getting sued. Isn't that a shame? I get the impression that the immigrants at my school honestly believe they are ENTITLED to extras that US born students are not. America is the land of opportunity, but I just get pissed when we have to favor people who don't speak English or those that aren't willing to accept America customs & traditions.
FFMatt

May 6 @ 4:09PM  
I live in southern california... So i'm the closest to the action...

I think that people should learn multiple languages... just to be immersed in other languages... but I choose to take German. I don't speak spanish... And if I get a customer at my work who doesn't speak english... if we can't figure things out with hand signals and the use of nouns... I'm gonna have to send them on their way...

It should be required to learn english to live here. It's taught in school if it's not your first language... so there really isn't an excuse... You wouldn't goto France or Germany or Sweeden and expect everybody you meet to speak english, would you?
woollybear575

May 6 @ 4:10PM  
???????coltsfootball1????????? ???JJN4FUN????????????????????????????????????????1????????????
????Razzing
Sincercely
prick
woollybear575

May 6 @ 4:13PM  
wouldn't take my Japanese, so here goes,I said all in good fun coltsfootball1. JJN4FUN did however make some valid points but I agree, it should be press 1 for a foreign language, please hold for english.
Just Razzing
Sincercely
the prick
Looking4ever

May 6 @ 4:30PM  
That's kind of how I took it, too, Woolly. I have no problem accommodating people with language barriers. BUT, since English is the national language, why shouldn't choosing another language be the option instead of English? Well, one reason...if we choose one, we don't have to listen to the litany of other languages and options that will be gone through to help others. But, I feel like some might be getting other issues mixed up here. It's obviously a sensitive subject for many.
ponme

May 6 @ 4:49PM  
I don't have nearly as much problem with pressing 1 for english as I do with answering the phone to someone who does not speak the language trying to sell me services. That's annoying as hell. Or selling me tech support if it's going to be based in India. All well and good but.. when someone tells me to put my "husband' on the telephone, because, being female I obviously don't understand what they are saying.... grrrrrr...

no I don't understand what you are saying because your english is so heavily accented that I don't get it.
sepsl45677

May 6 @ 4:55PM  
The COMPANY asking you to press 1 for English is making sure they don't mi$$ any opportunite$$$$.
JJN4Fun

May 6 @ 5:00PM  
I can't believe how people can be so petty as to get upset for having to press a fuckin' number. I can think of better things to get my undies in a bundle about..like racism, for example. Now THAT'S something to get upset about. Jesus fucking christ...
wtxman

May 6 @ 5:10PM  
no comprende englaze,senoir.
ladybootscooter

May 6 @ 5:18PM  
o-si-yo a-ni-yv-wu-yu, (Hello People, for those that don't speak Cherokee) I think my family had seniority on one of the original languages here! This is a melting pot nation and yes we do need extra "options" , I do not agree with teaching classes bi-lingually, I believe that if you are going to live here, learn at least some of the language, however as Noms pointed out we have many visitors and short term people here that need those "options"! I would hate to be in a foreign land and not have anything posted in English to help me especially in an emergency! However I also agree with totallytaboo, that it really does piss me off to call a tech support and get someone in a foreign country that I can barely understand, knowing that my dollars for said service or product are going to a company that outsources it's tech support to save a few dollars and that they are paying said person (usually in India) approx. $329.00 per month to do said job! But that's a whole other blog topic!
sumdaysoon

May 6 @ 5:19PM  
jj........i don't think it is just about pressing the number.........its the whole package........press the number, people on the phone with such heavy accents you can't understand them, putting up signs in different languages, making accomodations for someone who does not speak english and refuses to learn it, special incentives in schools for immigrants, just to name some..............if anyone wants to live here i don't have a problem with that.........at least you could learn the language and not expect me to adjust to you............diversity is good to a point......what that point is i do not know......but the price my outweigh the value eventually.......
zaralyon

May 6 @ 5:31PM  
Sumdaysoon, just for the record I have a friend who has told me that here in the united states the schools where she lived, mind you i must repeat she lived in the united states and they where public schools, taught in FRENCH not English.
coltsfootball

May 6 @ 5:37PM  
I can't believe how people can be so petty as to get upset for having to press a fuckin' number. I can think of better things to get my undies in a bundle about..like racism, for example. Now THAT'S something to get upset about. Jesus fucking christ...
JJ...I really don't understand where the reference to racism is coming from...Not liking to press 1 does not make me or anyone else racist. There were a couple of people that made the point that there should be options for different languages. My point is that since we live here English should not be the first one to have to make. It should be assumed that we are English speaking Americans and if you are a foreign speaking American then the option for your language should be then be offered. So stop thinking that everyone is racist.
bentan

May 6 @ 5:40PM  
Consider this: the alternative is to say "press 1 for a foreign language". But what language should that question be posed in in order for non-English speakers to understand it? English, Spanish, Mandarin or some other language? Besides, I would think having to hold for English is more annoying, because the system then has to allow a few seconds for the potential non-English speaker to fumble and press "1". I'd rather be the one pressing "1" even before the question gets asked. It's actually much faster that way.

But I think people are not getting pissed over something as trivial as pressing a button. In my opinion, it's the whole attitude of non-assimilation that large number of immigrants are displaying, especially those who have entered this country illegally, that drives people crazy. There is legitimate reason to be unhappy about such attitudes. However, don't forget that many are here legally and are in the process of getting a green card, learning the language, our laws, constitution, government and so forth. It behooves us as the "regs" to show more tolerance for those in transition.

Finally and I just want to say this to the guy who has been making racist and homophobic remarks for some time now and thinks he's getting away with it: grow the fuck up. People if you can tolerate this type of behavior you can tolerate anything.

bentan

May 6 @ 5:47PM  
Colts I think JJ was merely saying that she felt racism was a much more serious issue than pressing a phone button. She wasn't saying anyone's a racist for expressing an opinion about the latter. But having said that, scan the blog comments above to see one glaring instance of racism ... the one that I referred to.
coltsfootball

May 6 @ 5:56PM  
I agree that racism is a very big issue in this country and it keeps us divided as a nation, but there are a lot of situations in which things are said that aren't meant to be racist comments but are taken as such. I'm am in no way a racist person but there are things that are allowed to happen in this country that piss me off and the minute anything is said about it, people come along and discredit it with accusations of racism. Instead of facing the truth or issue (to be politically correct) it's blamed on racism so that no one has to deal with it.
bentan

May 6 @ 6:06PM  
fuck a bunch or ragheds, tacobenders,stay the hell out

Go ahead and tell me this is not a racist remark. Maybe I didn't make myself clear enough but no one said your blog nor anyone's comments (except the one quoted) was racist. Re-read JJ's comments and tell me where she accused anyone of racism. On the other hand though, when you bring up such a topic, it is almost inevitable that someone with the maturity level of the quoted commenter will take the opportunity to slide in a racist comment. It's not the fault of you or your blog but I'm just saying it happens and to be aware of it.
coltsfootball

May 6 @ 6:11PM  
fuck a bunch or ragheds, tacobenders,stay the hell out

Go ahead and tell me this is not a racist remark. Maybe I didn't make myself clear enough but no one said your blog nor anyone's comments (except the one quoted) was racist. Re-read JJ's comments and tell me where she accused anyone of racism. On the other hand though, when you bring up such a topic, it is almost inevitable that someone with the maturity level of the quoted commenter will take the opportunity to slide in a racist comment. It's not the fault of you or your blog but I'm just saying it happens and to be aware of it.

I missed that one....Your right, that is the attitude that causes the problems. The response that I just made was not directed at jj, I was Talking about the general state of this country.
ladybootscooter

May 6 @ 6:13PM  
fuck a bunch or ragheds, tacobenders,stay the hell out
coltsfootball, you just have to overlook some people, they are racist and so proud of their ignorance they let it show all the time!
JJN4Fun

May 6 @ 6:16PM  
My reference to racism was pretty clear - I can think of better things than having to choose "English" as an option to get this upset about, and I gave racism as an example of something that would (and does) upset me more. I could have said something else, sure, but I do feel that some of the comments here reflect a racist attitude so I said racism.

Now, read my words. I am not calling anyone a racist. I'm not even saying anyone made racist statements...I said that they had a racist feel to me. I'm talking about my perceptions and my feelings. I someone here going to tell me I'm not allowed to tell you I feel this way because that's not how you meant it? Perceptions cannot be controlled. You all can cry "I'm not a racist!" all you want, but that won't change how your words made me feel.
coltsfootball

May 6 @ 6:35PM  
I apologize if anyone felt offended. I was not trying to be or sound racist. I was talking about one simple (simple to me) issue and it got a little out of hand. Race is just like religion and politics, not a good topic of discussion. I respect every ones right to express their opinion and feelings, but if something I said caused bad feelings then like I said...I apologize.
bentan

May 6 @ 7:01PM  
If it means anything to you Colts, I thought you broached the subject with a fair amount of sensitivity. As JJ rightly pointed out, perceptions can't be controlled. However, what we choose to say and do as a result of those perceptions can be controlled. If we had to worry about making sure everyone was not offended by our opinions, we would either wind up not discussing anything or perhaps just saying things of very little importance. You have, in my opinion, nothing to feel sorry about. It was a legitimate topic worthy of discussion.
Loveyoulongtime2

May 6 @ 7:15PM  
I have read that in Quebec they have the language police, and they do not want foreign words to change their language. French is the only official language there.
lintroller

May 6 @ 7:22PM  
Hey colts, I see your frustration, although I think it might be misdirected. This is America; the whole point of this country is to serve as a beacon of freedom and to welcome the oppressed. I don't have a problem with smoothing the transition by offering a Spanish telephone option, and I agree with Bentan that pressing 1 for English is the fastest route to getting things done. Now, if you want to argue that providing better healthcare services to noncitizens than the underserved who already established here is a travesty of justice, I'll definitely listen. Let's not forget, though, that English as our primary language is somewhat arbitrary; as some have pointed out, our European forebears were not exactly the first to arrive on this continent, so I think we can be a little more understanding.

Now then:
When we American torrists go to other countries most of us know that we have to adapt to another language in these other countries. These other countries expect us too, and more than often enough we have these booklets and small hand held computer that will help us out with the language. That's more than what I see over here with the mexicans trying to learn ours.

This comment is TOTALLY inaccurate. Do you mean to tell me that Americans are more cosmopolitan and better versed in foreign languages than our counterparts from elsewhere? We're probably the worst offenders in the entire world when it comes to learning other languages. Go to France and listen to a typical American order the steak frites or ask for directions to the bathroom. *shudder* The rest of the world unquestionably bears a greater language burden than we do here, simply because English has become the number one indispensable language of commerce and diplomacy.
JJN4Fun

May 6 @ 7:38PM  
Colts - you were very polite and respectful in expressing yourself; I could only hope everyone could be that tactful when expressing opinions on such topics.

The comments in response to my statement that people are getting so upset about something so petty illustrated my point (didn't catch the sarcasm in my statement, I guess): it's not the inconvenience of having to push a button to identify oneself as English-speaking that pisses people off - that was just used as a convenient springboard to rag about the real issue that's eating at them...accommodating people they don't feel deserve accommodations because they're not from here. Hidden behind a petty complain is a much larger issue - and to me, it IS race related.

People bitch about having to widen doors, install ramps, and change doorknobs to accommodate persons with disabilities. People bitch about parking stalls reserved for pregnant women. People bitch about anything that means changing how they do things "because it's not convenient", or "it's not fair", or because "it's always been done this way". Fuckin' wah! I imagine the Native Americans were a bit peeved that they had to start learning English when they were here first - but never mind, them's just Injuns, right? "Oh wah! Adjust, damnit!" Learn to be like us - talk like us, pray to our God, dress like we do, LIVE like we do. (((Because we're better!))) Does anyone deny this is a similar mindset? Fuck, that's all I'm hearing!

Y'all remember the story of the Sneeches? While y'all sit here digging your heels into the ground with your arms folded across your chests about about pressing 1 for English and seeing signs in English and Spanish, life will go on and move on around you. It will progress whether you like it or not. So go ahead - I'm moving on...and I think I'll listen to some Selena and dance the Cumbia for a while.

Adios!



jezzarae

May 6 @ 7:56PM  
Ok does anyone realise if you [B]DON'T[B] press one for english you could possibly sit through 5 minutes of options for other languages before you can actually get to choose the option for the person you need to talk to.
Pressing one means you can quickly get on with the business you called for. It is not discrimination it is not anything but expediant.
Get the fuck over it people.
Wordsofwit

May 6 @ 8:05PM  
I am more of a liberal than a conservative. But I live in Texas, excuse me...it is now Tejas and I am very conservative on immigration. Everyone but native Americans is descended from immigrants. Everyone learned the language, English.
If you won't learn the language, leave.
I work as an employment counselor and disgusted by how often an American is not qualified for a job due to not speaking Spanish.
Along with the pushing a button thing, I have a pet peeve of mine. People taking orders in the drive thru that don't speak good enough English to be understood...and don't tell me they can't get an American to do the job.
Loveyoulongtime2

May 6 @ 8:06PM  
JJN4Fun said:
OMFG! Was English the original language spoken here? If you want to talk about history, go back to before this was an English-speaking country!
Native Americans spoke many different languages, there were many nations here.
This country is just too big for one language it seems.
sundance64

May 6 @ 8:32PM  
I work as an employment counselor and disgusted by how often an American is not qualified for a job due to not speaking Spanish.

Here Here!! Since I moved...I'm amazed at how many jobs...good jobs...I don't qualify for, simply because one...ONE!...of the requirements was to be bi-lingual, as in English/Spanish. I asked one company why they REQUIRED someone for this position to speak spanish...they said because the majority of thier customers only spoke spanish.

But on the other hand...I've been to both sides of the globe. Traveled to both Europe and Asia. In every major city, and even most small towns...road signs are in the native language and in english. When I lived in Japan...I learned some of the language...but most of the business owners spoke at least some english and its a required language course in all schools.

What alot of english speaking people don't realize is that ours is a very hard language to learn. Although I don't believe that excuses someone wanting to live in THIS country, permanently, and not bothering to learn the language. If I decided to move to Italy, I'd learn italian and learn to speak it well before going.
kkatydid

May 6 @ 8:55PM  
Makes you wonder what the politics of the whole scene involve. Now if we were doing a majority of our business with Spanish speaking individuals, I could lean more towards having that option. I really liked the suggestion if you speak a foreign language press 1...........Why are we giving preference to Spanish speaking individuals? What about our neighbors to the north where French is a preference in certain areas? What about the Japanese investors here? Why aren't there options for all the other immigrants that have come to this country?
StraddleMyNose

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May 6 @ 10:53PM  
Lintroller, yes, I have seen many Americans go abroad and try to get other countries languages right in those countries. I myself don't expect to go abroad and have others with a different language adapt to my language. It's called responsible and being considerate in another country. The only comment I see in this whole blog is from one guy with the racists one liner comment. This whole topic was about the spanish language and how it's impacted our lives. I really believe that this wouldn't be an issue with the spanish language overtaking the english language here if it weren't for the ILLEAGAL aliens living in this country which is against the law in the first place. Do I have a problem with that, you better it. For the Mexican people who are here legally and are good people I applaude you for going through customs, and not only are most of you taking the time in learning our American History, you're also taking the time to be responsible enough to learn our english language. To simply say someone detects a hint of racism here in a lot of the comments is pure crap in my opinion! They can think racism all they want, bottom line is it's about ILLEAGAL mexicans here that will not adapt to our language and that's causing more and more problems every year. For the last 20 years our government has done nothing to curve this trend with the illeagals here in this country, and the problem has gotten worse over the last 20 years. I stand behind my comments here 100 percent!
JJN4Fun

May 6 @ 11:22PM  
This whole topic was about the spanish language and how it's impacted our lives.

You can hate or disagree me if you want, but this is a bitch of mine. Why is it that we live in the USA and English is the primary language but anytime you call somewhere you get a recording asking you to press 1 for English???? I feel like the recording should say that if you speak a language other than English then press 1. I am not saying that it is wrong for someone to speak another language, but I should not have to verify that I speak the language from the country in which I live and am making the call. I may sound close minded and I apologize to anyone I may offend, but it is a damn shame to have to request to speck to someone in the language we were taught.

Learn to read - where did it say anything about the Spanish language? And Straddle, everything you just said sounded racist to me - because of your snotty, superior, contemptuous tone. If I didn't think of you as a bigot before, I do now. But then, that's just my opinion and I know you don't care about that, so I guess it's a moot point.
StraddleMyNose

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May 6 @ 11:35PM  
Well Nomi, I can't help how you feel. I quit caring about what you thought of me two months ago. I know I'm not a bigot and that's all that matters!
rainbowtoxicity

May 7 @ 2:03AM  
No offense colt's...but I dont see the problem here. We have to remember that probably 95% of our ancestors came to America from other countries. The took everything away from the natives, thier pride, their language, their women....etc. What I'm getting at here, is that atsome point in our heritage....our ancestors did exactly what the foreigners are doing now. This is karma saying...you started it...now deal with it. America is a beacon of freedoms and rights not found in many international countries. People come here to escape from the bad things in their countries. Yes, I'll admit that America is getting crowded. Jobs, taxes, prices on everything are reaching sky rocketing heights. But who's faut is it really? We build up our country to be something infathomable, and Pure. Who wouldn't want to live in a place like that? If other countries new that America was somewhat of a shit hole...they would have either stayed where they were, or tried somewhere else. I welcome all people, because someday I too would like to leave my native country and try life somehwere else. Then I'll be hearing people in that country complaining (like you guys are) about how crowded their country is with foreigners, and people who do't understand their language...and how much they hate it. Oh and also...to DOCVN you said "fuck a bunch or ragheds, tacobenders,stay the hell out!" You have to remember aswell that not a single American born person isn't 100% of any race. This far down the line in lineage, the races of the world have ben cross breeded billions upon billions of times. So for all you know you could be part "Raghed" or "TacoBender"...DOCVN- I also suggest you think a though through all the way before posting something so two dementional and Redundant, and ultimately making an ass out of yourself.

Good night all! Remember, Everyone has their own opinion. You spoke yours, and this is my opinion. So don't bash me. ok?

Kim
funnygirl730

May 7 @ 5:51AM  
i firmly agree.could be because we are quicking becomming a miority in our own country.
DarkKnightWalking

May 7 @ 12:17PM  
Well, while I agree it can be viewed as a minor point about the phone buttons, let me illustrate something that hits me directly.

I work in a store that is in a predominantly spanish speaking neighborhood. Weekly and almost daily I get asked by a patron ( in english ) if I speak spanish. I do not, and now the growing bulk are not going to me for service. Note that many CAN speak english, I hear them mixing the two.

What would that be called, if not discrimination for my language and perhaps race? I also point out I am 1/5 cherokee, although I havent seen anyone discuss the confinement to reservations and for some the ultimate destruction of ALL the indian tribes who lived here before England came across the sea, (many of said tribes are now extinct ) on this site, ever and in very small ways elsewhere.... English was established as a "common" language then and has carried on until now, although it's far different than "true" english.

Now in light of recent developments concerning "illegal aliens" ( This means ANY, not just spanish descent ) in the news, particularly the two legislation issues which immediately come to mind are of offering them free healthcare and now even more recently Driver's Licenses....tempers are short and lines are being drawn.

Yes, it's a volatile topic indeed. And one which also hits home, because honestly I have a few health issues and have swallowed my pride a couple times and tried for aid and a medical card just until I got back on my feet, only to be turned down because I am not disabled, handicapped, a female and/or pregnant. I have license problems and have had for over 10 years, long story. So I will be honest and say it does irk me a bit to read the news lately because of my own experiences. In pretty much any other country illegals are at the least, exported and at the most, shot. While I think that while someone is receiving care they need is a wonderful thing and I totally agree with, it will also be a powerful incentive for many more to be "sneaking in" to the U.S. But I am not bitter over it nor do I try to start shit on this thread over it or anywhere else just because I myself cant get help at all.

But it does make me think of a new question:

Why is it that when anyone of a race that's "white" ( just a generalized term here ) speaks their mind about any issue no matter how small that they feel something about, it opens a flaming response from a great many ( NOT pointing any fingers, I mean everywhere ), yet if someone of ANY other race ( again, just generalized ) has an issue, everyone puts their support behind them? And I am not speaking just on this board, I mean everywhere.
So..where is the equality in that? aren't "whites" allowed to have their say too, as long as they're respectful?

Again I say I am not trying to stir shit , blame anyone, point fingers whatsoever any direction or at anyone. I just maybe have given some food for thought.

And if I was going to go to extremes...I would call on my Indian heritage and say...Get off my land, biatches.... ( That's just a joke, for anyone who doesn't recognize it, neener neener )

Can't we all just play nice....and naughty?
( and equally? )
*Huggz for All*
lintroller

May 7 @ 5:55PM  
TC, I disagree somewhat (respectfully). A member of a traditionally persecuted, underserved, or generally disadvantaged group has access to language that must not be abused by the group that has traditionally held power, at a minimum, and has institutionalized racism and bigotry, at its worst. I really think this is an underappreciated point. White people complain, for instance, about black people using the N-word with each other, but what's to complain about? The historically oppressed use hateful terms among each other to detoxify them; the connotation is completely different when it comes out of a white person's mouth. Hence, there is a double standard, and it's an appropriate one. Yes, the privileged and the powerful should have to tread lightly with their language, because it carries immense weight and has been used in the past at the expense of others. It can sometimes be a subtle point to know what language is actually inflammatory, and I think that's why communication can break down quickly on charged issues like this.
cindythatsins

May 9 @ 6:12PM  
wait my voicemail says press for english all other people hold until you speak english
purpleflowers

May 23 @ 10:40AM  
Technically, they do that because, usually, Spanish will be spoken next and if you don't understand Spanish, then you won't know what button to push. Are they outsourcing phone sex now??? Is that the problem.
La_Petit_Mort

May 28 @ 11:11PM  
Zurück an dir bildet coltsfootball1, alles im guten Spaß und JJN4FUN etwas sehr gute Punkte. Aber IMAO, das wir nicht ein, es bedrängen noch müssen sollten, sollte sein, wenn du eine Fremdsprachepresse 1. sprichst.

?????

Back on you educated coltsfootball all in good fun and JJN4FUN a bit of good points ... and the rest is beyond me. Mind you, I AM German


Either way, English is the official language in the US and so that's what I speak. After all, I want people to understand me n'est ce pas?
Can also muddle through in Italian, French and Portuguese (Greek only after two glasses of wine) but I found that's a European thing. Our little continent is so packed, we have to learn to communicate some way or another.

Americans have the advantage (or disadvantage, depending on point of view) that you don't really NEED to learn another language, English is understood almost anywhere.


Now, I agree that since English is this country's primary language, immigrants would be wise to learn it. But may I kindly ask for the option "For German press 28"? Pretty pleeez?

snuggles

May 29 @ 12:56AM  
I do not mind if it says in English. " if you speak English press one" followed by a pause long enough so I can press one. I do not like it when it says for English press one then follows right along with a long sentence of Spanish and pressing one does not get me English until it goes through all the Spanish words. I think a visitor to the US should learn basic travel English to get by while they are here. However if you are going to live here for a year or more then you should learn the language just as I would learn the language of your country if I chose to move there, I would not try to change your countries language to my own. Yes I do know that the native tongue was the original language of this country but even they learned English and few speak their native tongues now. I have nothing against anyone who comes here to better themselves. I just think that it is common sense that all countries have a language that everyone moving there finally learns so they can interact with each other. Here in the US it is English. We have way to many people and cultures moving here every day for us to learn every single one and for us to cater to them all, so to be fair to us all we need one language that we all must learn to live here and it is English.
If you have lived here for a year or more and do not know how to speak English shame on you. Period.
nawtikitty

Mar 31 @ 1:16AM  
ROFFLMAO..Holy fucking WHINERS!!!!!

I met someone last weekend who spoke "English" apparently and I had a really hard time understanding him because of HIS accent!

Get the fuck over yourselves already!!..
TheAvenger

Mar 31 @ 2:32AM  
Most countries routinely teach English in their elementary and high schools. Yet even when taking a second language was mandatory in our schools, basically we had to choose only Spanish, German, French or Latin.

I'd hate to think I went to a predominantly non-English speaking country and was subject to hate and ridicule and a general bitch session just because I didn't know their language very well.

The only problem I have is dealing with ESLs who can speak English, but who cannot speak it very well and cannot enunciate or pronounce the words correctly. I actually think that is done on purpose, however, to get people to make hasty decisions (such as in telemarketing) 1) because a lot of people are reluctant to offend and 2) because a lot of people will just go ahead and agree with buying the product or service without listening to the details because it's so frustrating to have to do so. I've gotten to the point where I'll make them repeat themselves until they speak clearly enough to be understood.

Having said that, I could just kick myself for not taking a foreign language in school. I was raised in Southern California and in the 60s, in elementary school, those who knew Spanish were not allowed to speak it to the Spanish-speaking kids, because they were trying to learn English.

By the time I got to high school I was already living in Nashville, where English is a "second language" for many of the "natives." Many people here sure don't have a right to speak about anyone else not speaking proper English, that's for sure!!!

I don't mind "pressing 1 for English" ...but sometimes, by the time I go through the whole spiel, I don't remember what it was I called for in the first place!

Anyway, while there are sometimes inconveniences to deal with, I am not so high and mighty as an American as to demand that everyone in this country know my language. Sure, it helps to know enough conversational English to get by, just like it would in any country and their language.

I think having differences in language teaches us tolerance and acceptance of others who are culturally different from us.

I know one thing: there are a HELL of a lot of Hispanic gorgeous hunks around here who don't speak English ...DAMN, I wish I had learned Spanish! Damn ! Double damn!

canuhelpme258

Mar 31 @ 2:44AM  

This is the one that made too many one's fly off the crazy tree!
nawtikitty

Mar 31 @ 10:49AM  
When we American torrists go to other countries most of us know that we have to adapt to another language in these other countries. These other countries expect us too, and more than often enough we have these booklets and small hand held computer that will help us out with the language. That's more than what I see over here with the mexicans trying to learn ours.

You're kidding..................right? I have travelled pretty damned extensively thru out quite a few places in the world and I've YET to see ANY American doing this. What I do hear is a whole lot of bitching and moaning about "why can't THEY speak English?" DUH..you're IN a foriegn country Be thankful they know any English and you know..the only reason they might learn English is to accommodate you.. the tourist. Yes you're a tourist in THEIR country so have some manners and respect for another place., Kind of like what YOU expect when peope visit your country?

News flash for you as well while you're touting your most wonderfull arrogant way of "breathing". The US is THE ONLY place in the world..we're talking world here not your little backyard.. where a second language isn't routinely LEARNED. Most people in Europe can speak at least two languages. Hell even in Canada we are supposed to learn a second language!

If anything what I DO hear is bitching and whining that "they don't speak English" and "the food isn't like at home"

Well why the sam hell did you bother coming to another country? To taste YOUR own food in ANOTHER country? That's wise..Yup..

STAY HOME!! They dont' wanna hear your flipping whining and neither do I
ladybootscooter

Mar 31 @ 11:25AM  
Here we fucking go again. This one made people crazy when it was first posted and apparently it drives newbies over the fucking edge of the cliff too!
For those that have a learning disability or reading comprehension problem, nowhere in this blog did the poster whine about going to other countries and not being able to converse in English. He was ranting, complaining, bitching if you will about the fact that our own country caters so much to foreign speaking individuals. The handle is swinging by you again folks, grab it and get a fucking grip.
nawtikitty

Mar 31 @ 11:43AM  
For those who's cranium's are rectally inverted, the comment I was addressing was specifically highlighted in yellow as a quotation.


Perhaps one should
read
what is actually being addressed before inserting one's opinion and removing all doubt of one's underlying motivation of attack

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